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Observations on atheists

Iacchus said:
I'm saying that nothing is 100 percent foolproof. Indeed, we may very well be living in The Matrix and we don't know it. So that blasts any notion of an external reality clear out of the water.
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So how do you know that god is real if you don't know that anything is real?
 
Radrook said:


It is assumed just as everything else is assumed.
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So you don't really know that god is real, you just assume it. What makes your assumptions any more valid than my assumptions?
 
dmarker said:

So how do you know that god is real if you don't know that anything is real?
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Well, maybe we don't. But it's just like anything else, you have to study and inquire about it.

Also, being the subjective creatures that we are, it lends itself very well to the idea that man is religious by nature. What else could you possibly expect, since it all entails belief. So, maybe this was part of the overall design, in order to establish a relationship with God. In other words, man was obviously set up this way.

So, if you were to look at it this way, it might be one possible indication (and it is) that you're looing in the right direction.
 
Iacchus said:
Well, maybe we don't. But it's just like anything else, you have to study and inquire about it.
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How - and which God, or Gods (To which, you still haven't answered)?

Also, being the subjective creatures that we are, it lends itself very well to the idea that man is religious by nature.
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Non sequitor.

What else could you possibly expect, since it all entails belief.
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Belief of?

So, maybe this was part of the overall design, in order to establish a relationship with God. In other words, man was obviously set up this way.
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More blatant assumption and rampant speculation without evidence.

So, if you were to look at it this way, it might be one possible indication (and it is) that you're looing in the right direction.
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Or a creduloid.
 
Iacchus said:
Well, maybe we don't. But it's just like anything else, you have to study and inquire about it.

Also, being the subjective creatures that we are, it lends itself very well to the idea that man is religious by nature. What else could you possibly expect, since it all entails belief. So, maybe this was part of the overall design, in order to establish a relationship with God. In other words, man was obviously set up this way.

So, if you were to look at it this way, it might be one possible indication (and it is) that you're looing in the right direction.
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So some people were set up to believe in deities whether they exist or not. Is that what you are saying?

edited to correct a dumb grammatical error
 
dmarker said:

So some people was set up to believe in deities whether they exist or not. Is that what you are saying?
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Well it all depends on how you look at it guess? If you don't see how this lends itself to the idea of man being a religious creature, and that he was created in this respect, then there's not much I can say.
 
Iacchus said:
Well it all depends on how you look at it guess? If you don't see how this lends itself to the idea of man being a religious creature, and that he was created in this respect, then there's not much I can say.
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But how do you know that there is really a deity as opposed to a mere chemical reaction in your brain?
 
Iacchus said:
Study and inquire, and I mean on your own here.
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Study and inquire about what? Whether God, or Gods exist?

I already have - there is no proof that any of them exist, ergo, I do not believe.

And since by that statement you seem to have trouble discerning what I mean, let me explain it for you.

Which one religion, or sect, is the one true religion? Since most religions claim to be the "Truth", that, therefore, makes them claim to be mutually exclusive to all others, and that all others are false.
 
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I'm just going to sit back and watch this time.

(On a side note - it's interesting to see the religions evolve, from polytheism, to monotheism, to use of fear and hell to put people in line and to scare non-believers into conforming, and now, with Swedenborg's Church, to guarantee people of all creeds access to heaven to lure people into that Church).
 
Baiting? Hardly - more or less means that I've grown tired of repeating myself asking you to address the points.
 
zaayrdragon said:

So now you've gone to faith in Swedenborg.

Why can't you just think for yourself instead?
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Who me? No I don't place any faith in Swedenborg. And, although I'm inclined to agree with him, I use his materials as a reference more than anything else.

I don't belong to any church by the way.
 
RabbiSatan said:
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I'm just going to sit back and watch this time.

(On a side note - it's interesting to see the religions evolve, from polytheism, to monotheism, to use of fear and hell to put people in line and to scare non-believers into conforming, and now, with Swedenborg's Church, to guarantee people of all creeds access to heaven to lure people into that Church).
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Yes, and what would one of the signs of the True Church be? Tolerance.

Which, seems to be in a real short supply around here. ;)
 
If

With God any thing is possible.

Then

With God belief any belief is possible.


How dare any theist not believe in everything!
 
Iacchus said:


Please click on picture to go to True Church.
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All people strive for that [goodness] already.

Giving a heaven doesn't do much. But I assume there is a monetary fee.
 
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