Obama's Arizona Signs ...

[BeAChooser]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/31/signs-in-arizona-warn-of-smuggler-dangers/

The federal government has posted signs along a major interstate highway in Arizona, more than 100 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border, warning travelers the area is unsafe because of drug and alien smugglers, and a local sheriff says Mexican drug cartels now control some parts of the state.

The signs were posted by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) along a 60-mile stretch of Interstate 8 between Casa Grande and Gila Bend, a major east-west corridor linking Tucson and Phoenix with San Diego.

They warn travelers that they are entering an "active drug and human smuggling area" and they may encounter "armed criminals and smuggling vehicles traveling at high rates of speed." Beginning less than 50 miles south of Phoenix, the signs encourage travelers to "use public lands north of Interstate 8" and to call 911 if they "see suspicious activity."

And as noted, this isn't right on the border … this is 100 miles inside the border. 100 MILES.

Now here's a question for you Obama supporting *skeptics*.

Why is the Federal Government asking people to call 911 … which would notify state/local authorities ... if the state/local authorities have no juridiction over matters involving illegals? Hmmmmm?

Here's another question for you.

Why has the Federal Government basically given up and allowed a foreign entity (Mexican drug cartels) to take over a large region of Arizona? Where are the troops to fight this incursion?

No one is being fooled by the rhetoric of the Obama administration any longer. In fact, I have a suspicion that if the Federal refuses to solve this problem, then sooner or later ordinary citizens in Arizona are going to take matters in their own hands. And woe be the smugglers then.

 

[Ausmerican]

Now here's a question for you Obama supporting *skeptics*.

Why is the Federal Government asking people to call 911 … which would notify state/local authorities ... if the state/local authorities have no juridiction over matters involving illegals? Hmmmmm?

Here's another question for you.

Why has the Federal Government basically given up and allowed a foreign entity (Mexican drug cartels) to take over a large region of Arizona? Where are the troops to fight this incursion?

No one is being fooled by the rhetoric of the Obama administration any longer. In fact, I have a suspicion that if the Federal refuses to solve this problem, then sooner or later ordinary citizens in Arizona are going to take matters in their own hands. And woe be the smugglers then.

Question 1: Calling 911 is totally valid. You see, it says drugs as well as alien smugglers. Like that guy in the big photo at the top of the linked story? The Texan born drug lord? The guys from 911 are quite able to take care of that.

Question 2: They haven't. Babeu is a sensationalist.

As to your last comment, I would hope not. It would be woe to a lot of Arizonans as well.

 

[Kopji]

Obama has... Ah.... Ah... did what was right for Arizona.

 

[leftysergeant]

Got a source for that that won't give me tin foil cuts when I open it?

 

[Zep]

Well, I'M convinced! I'm NEVER going to Arizona again! No doubt the Grand Canyon will be overflowing with crack cocaine and dead bodies within weeks.

*snork*

 

[Kopji]

Here's a picture of the sign:
http://www.kvoa.com/news/blm-alerts-travelers/

Sorry, the BLM does not enjoy the reputation of a well reasoned and calm government agency. They are more like a knee jerk agency, but without the knees.

Hey Mabel! There's a sign a-way over there. Let's go over and see what it says.
There's one! Hurry! Call 911 pron-to! 9... 1... Oh Oh! gimme the cell!.

Signal Strength: ______,

When the BLM is not posting warning signs they are wild horse wranglers.

 

[Accidental Martyr]

Here's a picture of the sign:
http://www.kvoa.com/news/blm-alerts-travelers/

Sorry, the BLM does not enjoy the reputation of a well reasoned and calm government agency. They are more like a knee jerk agency, but without the knees.

Hey Mabel! There's a sign a-way over there. Let's go over and see what it says.
There's one! Hurry! Call 911 pron-to! 9... 1... Oh Oh! gimme the cell!.

Signal Strength: ______,

When the BLM is not posting warning signs they are wild horse wranglers.

Holy crap, almost every comment on that story is absolutely nuts!

 

[Malerin]

Last month, Mr. Obama signed a $600 million bill to beef up security along the southwestern border. The bill funds 1,000 more Border Patrol agents, as well as 250 CBP officers and two more unmanned aerial vehicles.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/31/signs-in-arizona-warn-of-smuggler-dangers/?page=4

I hope it does some good.

 

[Alareth]

You do realize BAC that many branches of the government perform actions without the direct intervention of the President right?

I'd like to think your Obama Derangement Syndrome hasn't completely sublimated all your thought processes.

 

[KingMerv00]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/31/signs-in-arizona-warn-of-smuggler-dangers/



And as noted, this isn't right on the border … this is 100 miles inside the border. 100 MILES.

Now here's a question for you Obama supporting *skeptics*.

Why is the Federal Government asking people to call 911 … which would notify state/local authorities ... if the state/local authorities have no juridiction over matters involving illegals? Hmmmmm?

Here's another question for you.

Why has the Federal Government basically given up and allowed a foreign entity (Mexican drug cartels) to take over a large region of Arizona? Where are the troops to fight this incursion?

No one is being fooled by the rhetoric of the Obama administration any longer. In fact, I have a suspicion that if the Federal refuses to solve this problem, then sooner or later ordinary citizens in Arizona are going to take matters in their own hands. And woe be the smugglers then.

I'm sorry, I'm not convinced. Maybe if you said "stuck on stupid" a half dozen times it would help.

 

[Beerina]

You do realize BAC that many branches of the government perform actions without the direct intervention of the President right?

I'd like to think your Obama Derangement Syndrome hasn't completely sublimated all your thought processes.

The buck doesn't stop there?

Come on, man! Blaming the president for the actions of every last one of the (far too many) millions of government employees is old hat.

 

[BeAChooser]

You do realize BAC that many branches of the government perform actions without the direct intervention of the President right?

So you're claiming that Obama and his top staff were completely unaware that the BLM had put up signs basically ceding a portion of the US to Mexican cartel run drug and human smugglers? What else aren't they aware of Alerath?

And are you claiming that the BLM is unaware of the Obama administrations policy vis a vis state and local authorities involving themselves in any way in illegals crossing the border? What else is the BLM unaware of? That we are at war with terrorists, perhaps?

Remember when Janet Napolitano said "Show me a 50-foot fence, and I’ll show you a 51-foot ladder.” Well show us a border without the Federal Government doing it's job and this is what you get. Signs that are 100 miles inland warning American citizens to stay away because the area's too dangerous.

And yet here are people like you, Alereth, defending it.

 

[SezMe]

So you're claiming that Obama and his top staff were completely unaware that the BLM had put up signs basically ceding a portion of the US to Mexican cartel run drug and human smugglers? What else aren't they aware of Alerath?

I'm not Alerath but my answer is yes. You think Obama/Biden/Emanuel approve highway signs? If so, you're nuts.

 

[Kopji]

Why is the Federal Government asking people to call 911 … which would notify state/local authorities ... if the state/local authorities have no juridiction over matters involving illegals? Hmmmmm?

This seems like poor reasoning - 'does not follow'. If an illegal immigrant commits a crime it is state jurisdiction, although they might be turned over to the feds for deportation.

Here's another question for you.

Why has the Federal Government basically given up and allowed a foreign entity (Mexican drug cartels) to take over a large region of Arizona? Where are the troops to fight this incursion?

I don't really see how this is any different than the areas of Los Angeles controlled by drug gangs. There are places there I wouldn't go either.

But it is not like southern Arizona is 'taken over'. The area is more like a war zone than anything else. There is a high degree of military and law enforcement presence. It is dangerous precisely because of government interdiction. After all, if everyone were there to buy drugs there would be no conflict.

No one is being fooled by the rhetoric of the Obama administration any longer. In fact, I have a suspicion that if the Federal refuses to solve this problem, then sooner or later ordinary citizens in Arizona are going to take matters in their own hands. And woe be the smugglers then.

No one is being fooled by the rhetoric of the Obama administration any longer. In fact, I have a suspicion that if the Federal refuses to solve this problem, then sooner or later ordinary citizens in ___________ are going to take matters in their own hands. And woe be to ____________ then.

Seriously in danger of becoming a template for every post.

 

[Kopji]

Holy crap, almost every comment on that story is absolutely nuts!

The comments on the news site were just embarassing. I guess I expect more compassion in a state that sounds like such a moral beacon all the time.

There's a part of me that admires that they know their life in Mexico sucks and they are doing something about it at great danger. Compare that to some couch potato American whose major life issue is protesting cable tv prices. We cared about important stuff too, once upon a time.

People happy to see them die in the desert without mercy are I think, missing something vital to being human.

 

[BeAChooser]

If an illegal immigrant commits a crime it is state jurisdiction

LOL! Did you read what you wrote? Why do you think they are called illegal in the first place? And yet the Obama Administration is suing Arizona (and the Sheriff) to stop state involvement in catching and detaining these people.

I don't really see how this is any different than the areas of Los Angeles controlled by drug gangs.

Oh please. If you believe that, then where are the signs in Los Angeles warning people that this or that neighborhood is unsafe? And a bad neighborhood in Los Angeles is NOT an invasion by a foreign power. This is.

But it is not like southern Arizona is 'taken over'.

When they are warning Americans to stay out of large areas of their own country, it has indeed been taken over. And you best listen to what the locals say. They are being forced out of their homes in the area by these invaders. At the point of a gun. And there is going to be time, if the Feds don't respond, that locals are going to take matter into their own hands. And then woe to anyone who gets in their way.

There is a high degree of military and law enforcement presence. It is dangerous precisely because of government interdiction.

LOL! Where are those 1200 National Guard troops that Obama promised back in May? Still haven't been deployed yet. And how many did they say they were going to put into Arizona? 524. On a border that is 310 miles wide. Oh yeah, 524 troops, if they ever get deployed, sure are going to plug that hole. And I wonder if *this time* the soldiers will be allowed to have loaded guns.

 

[BeAChooser]

People happy to see them die in the desert without mercy are I think, missing something vital to being human.

Don't act morally superior. Instead of building a fence/wall and stopping all this, your side of this argument has been quite content to continue letting illegals die by the hundreds as they cross the Arizona desert ... due to the environment or smugglers and drug traffickers who rob, rape, kipnap and murder them by the hundreds. Those 70+ people who were recently murdered in Mexico at the hands of a cartel died because they refused to act as mules and carry drugs across the border. That likely wouldn't have happened if we built a fence/wall to shut down that method. The ONLY reason the liberals are fighting effective measures to close the border is that think most of those people can be turned into citizens and democrats. Now THAT is disgusting.

 

[Alareth]

ob·tuse  [uhb-toos, -tyoos] –adjective

1. not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or observant; dull.

 

[SezMe]

And yet the Obama Administration is suing Arizona (and the Sheriff) to stop state involvement in catching and detaining these people.

Oh, bull. And you know it. The DOJ is asserting that state law cannot trump federal law. And that is, I think you would agree, a well established legal principle.

 

[pipelineaudio]

the trails north of the 8 east of the 85 and west of the 347 have been being closed since before Obama took office. The BLM and Trust agencies stated that it was because of violent crime, and habitat destruction by coyote vehicles and especially from burning ditched coyote vehicles out there. I think this is just a continuation of it.

I don't expect Obama to do anymore about our problems than Bush did. At least Bush didnt stand hand in hand with Mexico's head thug and condemn arizona, but that's not a big help