Ausmerican
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No need. He hid them at Area 51 in the Ark of the Covenant.
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Obama Extends Diplomatic Immunity to Interpol by Executive Order
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No need. He hid them at Area 51 in the Ark of the Covenant.
leftysergeant
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Interpol can be quite useful to us in our foreign policy and national security, given the nature of known threats. Probably a good idea to make it easier for them to follow up some leads developed off shore that lead to US territory.
So can the CIA.
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The more eyes on the same problem, the better.
KoihimeNakamura
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...yeah, I have to agree with lefty on this. The more people able to work on a problem, the chance of better results. (Also, considering Interpol also maintains tracking on known criminals/terrorists, it's useful for them to be able to share info... although you'd THINK they could do that already..)
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Yeah, I'm not seeing any reason to exempt Interpol from domestic laws. The "point" has been made that DI makes it easier for them to do their job, but so would exempting legal restrictions for all law enforcement officers. There's a reason we don't do that, I don't know why that reason is somehow less valid when it comes to Interpol.
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Surely their reign of terror, once they have been made "exempt from domestic laws", will be second only to the havoc wreaked on our liberties by the North Pacific Anadromous Fish Commission.
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FlamingMoe
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What the hell?
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See post #5 on this thread.
Lefty Sergeant,
Uh, can't the CIA share information with Interpol as is?
Rika,
I can't see any reason why they cannot do that currently. With that in mind, why are they then giving Interpol diplomatic immunity?
Flaming Moe,
Agreed.
Of course, but that would be extremely dangerous and would open up the door to all sorts of abuses.
A very good reason. No law enforcement agency should have diplomatic immunity, it would open up the door to all sorts of abuses.
Dr. Adequate is attempting to make what your saying sound ridiculous and paranoid...
INRM
Uh, can't the CIA share information with Interpol as is?
Rika,
I can't see any reason why they cannot do that currently. With that in mind, why are they then giving Interpol diplomatic immunity?
Flaming Moe,
Agreed.
Of course, but that would be extremely dangerous and would open up the door to all sorts of abuses.
A very good reason. No law enforcement agency should have diplomatic immunity, it would open up the door to all sorts of abuses.
Dr. Adequate is attempting to make what your saying sound ridiculous and paranoid...
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Actually, I just thought he hadn't followed the thread.
If I should ever want to make Flaming Moe feel ridiculous and paranoid then, believe me, he won't need you to tell him about it --- he'll know.
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FlamingMoe
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Which just shows YOU haven't been following the thread, since we've (you and I) already had an exchange regarding the piddling organizations which have received DI earlier in the thread.
I suspect I won't be able to tell the difference between your normal condescension and this theoretical supercondescension you propose.
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Just to clarify something--diplomatic immunity for international organizations is not a blanket immunity. Different levels of immunity pertain to diplomatic-level staff than to other staff and support staff of these organizations. Only that top level may not be arrested or detained or their residences entered subject to ordinary procedures. All of them may be issued traffic tickets. All but the top level category may be prosecuted for other than official acts.
And any of them may be expelled (and subject to prosecution by their home country) or prosecuted here if their government waives immunity.
INMR, why do you insist this practice invites all sorts of abuses?
ETA: See the chart here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity#Diplomatic_immunity_in_the_United_States
ETA: I think this is one of the points Dr. A. was making by listing a bunch of international organizations that get diplomatic immunity. It's not such a big deal.
And any of them may be expelled (and subject to prosecution by their home country) or prosecuted here if their government waives immunity.
INMR, why do you insist this practice invites all sorts of abuses?
ETA: See the chart here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity#Diplomatic_immunity_in_the_United_States
ETA: I think this is one of the points Dr. A. was making by listing a bunch of international organizations that get diplomatic immunity. It's not such a big deal.
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I don't claim to speak for INRM, but my concern is what exemption the Interpol agents have and how they may abuse such immunities. I don't like giving any government agency more power, and no one has put forth any reason why Interpol can't operate within the bounds of the law just like domestic law enforcement.
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Because some local and state law enforcement can be petty, power abusing idiots, and Interpol doesn't have the same jurisdiction stick to hit local authorities over the head with.
Local government officials and law enforcement are not above legal threats and harassment when they feel their toes are being stepped on. Perhaps now Interpol has a defense against being thrown in a cell for a 'broken' tail light.
No, I'm not claiming it is common, but I can't think of a less invasive way to let Interpol do it's job safely.
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According to the OP, they have the immunity status of International Organizations, which is as I described in my previous post. Only diplomatic level staff of such organizations get much immunity at all. And if they abuse it, they'll be expelled.
I doubt typical Interpol field agents are considered diplomat level.
Wolfman
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Ummmm...
...there seems to be a misunderstanding here.
I don't believe that all Interpol agents are being given diplomatic immunity. Quite far from it. The vast majority of them are still just as subject to the law as ever. It is only very senior individuals within Interpol who 'enjoy' the benefits of this.
I live in China, directly opposite from the Canadian Embassy, and have had quite a bit of interaction with them over the years. Like all embassies, senior Canadian diplomatic staff who work there enjoy diplomatic immunity in China. However, the majority of the Canadians who work at the embassy do not have diplomatic immunity at all.
So, in fact, this has very little real impact. "Hiding documents"? As mentioned previously, there are already tons of organizations that could be used for this. "Making Interpol agents immune to U.S. law"? Nope...most of 'em are just as subject to the law as they were before.
And, as mentioned, diplomatic immunity can be waived. And were a senior Interpol agent to so grievously break the law that his diplomatic immunity were to become an issue, I rather suspect that we'd see it waived.
Or is there some Great Interpol Conspiracy of which I'm unaware?