Obama Extends Diplomatic Immunity to Interpol by Executive Order

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- http://www.newmediajournal.us/the_fifth_column/12222009.htm

President Obama has issued an amendment to Executive Order 12425, designating the international law enforcement agency Interpol as a "public international organization," thus extending diplomatic immunity to the law enforcement group

The amendment to the Executive Order -- which does not need to be put to the senatorial test of "advise and consent" -- reads:

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them."

The text of Section 2(c), which now applies to Interpol states:

"(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable."

The website ObamaFile.com notes, "If any branch of government wants to keep documents out of the hands of the US court system, just hand them over to Interpol until the smoke clears." It added that Interpol can maintain files on US citizens.

Here are other links discussing the same thing:
1.) http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425
2.) http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/EO12425.htm
3.) http://www.examiner.com/x-33619-Den...y2009m12d23-Kiss-the-Fourth-Amendment-goodbye

What are your opinions regarding these articles? Personally it seems as a very sleazy way to allow the government to keep documents out of the hands of the US Court System, and outside public accountability, as well as a way to end-run the Constitution, most particularly the 4th Amendment.

The President does have the authority issue executive orders, but he's not supposed to be able to arbitrarily waive the Constitutional Rights of the people...


INRM
 
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I can see potential problems with invasions of privacy. I believe but am uncertain some countries do not recognize that right and I can see these countries coming at odds with America. But I don't know how to properly express the details to this.

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Let me make myself a bit clear, this is just a gut instinct reaction. I don't know the details that would be related to this conclusion.
 
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Seems to me the Constitution is pretty specific the international treaties are the pervue of the Senate.

CT note: Does this mean that Obama's Kenyan birth certificate is off limits? ;)
 
What are your opinions regarding these articles? Personally it seems as a very sleazy way to allow the government to keep documents out of the hands of the US Court System, and outside public accountability, as well as a way to end-run the Constitution, most particularly the 4th Amendment.

The President does have the authority issue executive orders, but he's not supposed to be able to arbitrarily waive the Constitutional Rights of the people...
Well, I must say that this new development is disturbing. Up until now, if Obama wanted to conceal some incriminating document, and he was too dumb to know how to use a paper shredder, his only option would have been to lodge it with one of the organizations which already have these same privileges, so in effect his choices would have been limited to the African Development Bank, the African Development Fund, the African Union, the Asian Development Bank, the Border Environment Cooperation Commission, the Caribbean Organization, the Commission for Environmental Cooperation, the Commission for Labor Cooperation, the Commission for the Study of Alternatives to the Panama Canal, the Council of Europe in Respect of the Group of States Against Corruption (GRECO), the Customs Cooperation Council, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the European Central Bank, the European Space Agency, the Food and Agriculture Organization, the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, the Great Lakes Fishery Commission, the Hong Kong Economic and Trade Offices, the Inter-American Defense Board, the Inter-American Development Bank, the Inter-American Institute of Agricultural Sciences, the Inter-American Investment Corporation, the Inter-American Statistical Institute, the Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission, the Intergovernmental Maritime Consultative Organization, the International Atomic Energy Agency, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico, the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes, the International Civil Aviation Organization, the International Coffee Organization, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Cotton Advisory Committee, the International Cotton Institute, the International Development Association, the International Development Law Institute, the International Fertilizer Development Center, the International Finance Corporation, the International Fund for Agricultural Development, the International Hydrographic Bureau, the International Joint Commission—United States and Canada, the International Labor Organization, the International Monetary Fund, the International Pacific Halibut Commission, the International Secretariat for Volunteer Service, the International Telecommunication Union, the International Telecommunications Satellite Organization (INTELSAT), the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources, the International Wheat Advisory Committee (International Wheat Council), the Interparliamentary Union, the Israel-United States Binational Industrial Research and Development Foundation, the ITER International Fusion Energy Organization, the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization, the Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency, the Multinational Force and Observers, the North American Development Bank, the North Pacific Anadromous Fish Commission, the North Pacific Marine Science Organization, the Organization for European Economic Cooperation (now known as the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development), the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, the Organization of American States (includes Pan American Union), the Organization of Eastern Caribbean States, the Pacific Salmon Commission, the Pan American Health Organization (includes Pan American Sanitary Bureau), the Preparatory Commission of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the Provisional Intergovernmental Committee for the Movement of Migrants from Europe (now known as the Intergovernmental Committee for European Migration), the South Pacific Commission, the United International Bureau for the Protection of Intellectual Property (BIRPI), the United Nations, the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization, the United Nations Industrial Development Organization, the United States-Mexico Border Health Commission, the Universal Postal Union, the World Health Organization, the World Intellectual Property Organization, the World Meteorological Organization, the World Tourism Organization, the World Trade Organization, or any country with an embassy on U.S. soil.

But now if he wants to conceal a piece of incriminating evidence, he also has the option of turning it over to a group of international crime fighters.
 
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But now if he wants to conceal a piece of incriminating evidence, he also has the option of turning it over to a group of international crime fighters.
I was gonna' say pretty much the same thing, but could not have done anywhere near as good a job of doing so.
 
Eyeron,

I can see potential problems with invasions of privacy.

Of course, they would have diplomatic immunity. At least as I understand it, they could do anything they want with complete impunity.


The Prestige,

Well, it is a little weird to see foreign law enforcement agencies freed from the constitutional limits placed on our own police...

It's more than weird, it's extremely dangerous. No police force should have diplomatic immunity...


Casebro,

Seems to me the Constitution is pretty specific the international treaties are the pervue of the Senate.

As I understand it, being an amendment to an executive directive, I don't think it requires senatorial approval.


INRM
 
I am more concerned that this is Pres. Obama's way of moving more towards a global government, global police, global court system and of course global taxes. However, it does not inspire confidence in his claim that he was going to make government more transparent.
 
The point of diplomatic immunity is reciprocity. We exempt foreign diplomats from our laws on the condition that our diplomats are exempted from the laws of the country in which they represent US interests. This is to avoid any issues with the host nations harassing the representatives of other nations under the guise of law enforcement.

I don't see how granting Interpol diplomatic immunity advances this goal.
 
I am more concerned that this is Pres. Obama's way of moving more towards a global government, global police, global court system and of course global taxes.
Your claim to be off your head, though amusing, is irrelevant.

However, it does not inspire confidence in his claim that he was going to make government more transparent.
Interpol is not part of the government.
 
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The point of diplomatic immunity is reciprocity. We exempt foreign diplomats from our laws on the condition that our diplomats are exempted from the laws of the country in which they represent US interests. This is to avoid any issues with the host nations harassing the representatives of other nations under the guise of law enforcement.

I don't see how granting Interpol diplomatic immunity advances this goal.
And I don't see how granting the North Pacific Anadromous Fish Commission diplomatic immunity advances this goal.

Various international organization have been granted these privileges since 1946. There are now over seventy of them.

But somehow when Obama adds one organization to the list, this thing that the loony right never previously even knew about, let alone gave a tuppenny damn about, becomes a threat to our liberties and the end of everything.
 
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Of course, they would have diplomatic immunity. At least as I understand it, they could do anything they want with complete impunity.
Like the International Pacific Halibut Commission.

It's more than weird, it's extremely dangerous. No police force should have diplomatic immunity...
And as for those halibut people ...

... well, it makes one's flesh creep, does it not?
 
And I don't see how granting the North Pacific Anadromous Fish Commission diplomatic immunity advances this goal.

Various international organization have been granted these privileges since 1946. There are now over seventy of them.

But somehow when Obama adds one organization to the list, this thing that the loony right never previously even knew about, let alone gave a tuppenny damn about, becomes a threat to our liberties and the end of everything.

Because he is EVUUUUL!

:)
 
And I don't see how granting the North Pacific Anadromous Fish Commission diplomatic immunity advances this goal.
Nor do I. But upon reflection I guess it makes sense from an immigration law standpoint. A and G visas are given to representatives of foreign nations to the US (A visas) and representatives of foreign nations to international agencies (G visas). All classes of these visas (except A-5 and G-3) are exempted all grounds of inadmissibility except national security. It only stands to reason that the G visa holders would be exempted from domestic laws like A visa holders, as the only real difference between them is to whom the foreign nation's interests are being represented.

I'm not saying the exemption is justified, I'm just saying it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who knows about immigration law (and took a minute to think about it).

But somehow when Obama adds one organization to the list, this thing that the loony right never previously even knew about, let alone gave a tuppenny damn about, becomes a threat to our liberties and the end of everything.
It is very possible that something you never knew about could be a threat to you. How many people who died in the WTC never heard of al Qaeda, I wonder. (No, I'm not comparing Obama, or Interpol, or Darat, to al Qaeda.)

Anyway, I can see how people who don't really care about the Halibut Commission having DI could be more concerned with law enforcement agencies such as Interpol being granted DI.
 
Speaking of Obama's executive orders, any truth that he signed orders sealing his college records? Like admissions applications shpoing foreign birth, and/or Muslim-ness?
 

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