Obama Derangement Syndrome

I think that it's important that we don't just dismiss such people as 'insane' or 'out of their minds'. Chances are good she really believes that her view is a just one, not because she has impaired faculties, but because of information that confirms, to her, that view. That same information confirms that view for other people as well. To understand what we are actually objecting to, we must understand why they believe what they believe. Perhaps she dismisses information that doesn't support that view as being untrustworthy. Perhaps she puts more stock into something her parents or grandparents have said instead of what she has learned elsewhere.

This part of New York is fairly conservative, and I've heard a lot of people say a lot of abjectly stupid things about Obama, misrepresenting his policy, positions, background, and accomplishments. In such an environment, is it any surprise that an average sane person might come to the conclusion that the best thing for the country would be for the president to be killed? It's just one more reason to advocate critical thinking and challenge misinformation, not only when it's about 'your guy', but when it's about 'the other guy' as well. Misinformation is, in the end, harmful. This is true even if in the short run it helps 'your side'.
 
tyr_13 said:
I think that it's important that we don't just dismiss such people as 'insane' or 'out of their minds'. Chances are good she really believes that her view is a just one, not because she has impaired faculties, but because of information that confirms, to her, that view. That same information confirms that view for other people as well. To understand what we are actually objecting to, we must understand why they believe what they believe. Perhaps she dismisses information that doesn't support that view as being untrustworthy. Perhaps she puts more stock into something her parents or grandparents have said instead of what she has learned elsewhere.

This part of New York is fairly conservative, and I've heard a lot of people say a lot of abjectly stupid things about Obama, misrepresenting his policy, positions, background, and accomplishments. In such an environment, is it any surprise that an average sane person might come to the conclusion that the best thing for the country would be for the president to be killed? It's just one more reason to advocate critical thinking and challenge misinformation, not only when it's about 'your guy', but when it's about 'the other guy' as well. Misinformation is, in the end, harmful. This is true even if in the short run it helps 'your side'.
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I'm all for understanding opposing views but there's a line and she crossed it lol. Partisan hackery is one thing. Implying you hope the President gets assassinated and get a day off to celebrate is an entirely different can of worms.

She might be "a nice girl" but incredibly ignorant. Unfortunately often times there's no getting through to those "types" but if she was willing to listen to opposing views then I would be willing to give the benefit of a doubt.
 
The latest ODS is sour grapes, squared.

Last night I watched the Daily Show and Colbert, and laughed heartily at their mocking of the people who can't begrudge the President a job well done.

He showed some balls in taking the high risk approach.

You might say he is growing into, or has grown into, the job. It's a tough job.

He done good, seal team done good, a whole lotta people done good.

And some of these carping counts (drop the o) just can't stand it.

Well, they are free to makes sphincters out of themselves.

To quote John Wayne:
I didn't vote for him, but he's my president.

And I'll add: he done good.
 
There's some pretty serious derangement from the usual gang of idiots over in the faked photo thread in the CT section.
 
tyr_13 said:
I think that it's important that we don't just dismiss such people as 'insane' or 'out of their minds'. Chances are good she really believes that her view is a just one, not because she has impaired faculties, but because of information that confirms, to her, that view. That same information confirms that view for other people as well. To understand what we are actually objecting to, we must understand why they believe what they believe. Perhaps she dismisses information that doesn't support that view as being untrustworthy. Perhaps she puts more stock into something her parents or grandparents have said instead of what she has learned elsewhere.

This part of New York is fairly conservative, and I've heard a lot of people say a lot of abjectly stupid things about Obama, misrepresenting his policy, positions, background, and accomplishments. In such an environment, is it any surprise that an average sane person might come to the conclusion that the best thing for the country would be for the president to be killed? It's just one more reason to advocate critical thinking and challenge misinformation, not only when it's about 'your guy', but when it's about 'the other guy' as well. Misinformation is, in the end, harmful. This is true even if in the short run it helps 'your side'.
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I understand that if one listens to Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News, one can get a very distorted view of the president. And if all your friends and relatives support that view, then the echo chamber becomes almost deafening. But at some point you have to look at reality and see that it doesn't jibe with your perspective: President Obama is not sending people to round up guns, he is not sending people to re-education camps, he is not asking death panels to kill grandma, he is not passing ordinances requiring people to become homosexuals, he has not turned the U.S. over to the U.N., he is not asking people to burn American flags, he has not converted the currency to Ameros, etc. etc.1
If three years into President Obama's term you want the country to celebrate his assassination you are a racist of the first water or you are a nut. Wanting Congress to impeach him and convict him in a fair trail is one thing. Wanting him murdered and expecting the country to celebrate really is insane.


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(1) one has only to look at Fox News message boards to to listen to local right wing radio to see that there are large numbers of people who believe that each of these items is a plank in the Democratic Party's platform.
 
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Juniversal said:
I'm all for understanding opposing views but there's a line and she crossed it lol. Partisan hackery is one thing. Implying you hope the President gets assassinated and get a day off to celebrate is an entirely different can of worms.

She might be "a nice girl" but incredibly ignorant. Unfortunately often times there's no getting through to those "types" but if she was willing to listen to opposing views then I would be willing to give the benefit of a doubt.
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Ladewig said:
I understand that if one listens to Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News, one can get a very distorted view of the president. And if all your friends and relatives support that view, then the echo chamber becomes almost deafening. But at some point you have to look at reality and see that it doesn't jibe with your perspective: President Obama is not sending people to round up guns, he is not sending people to re-education camps, he is not asking death panels to kill grandma, he is not passing ordinances requiring people to become homosexuals, he has not turned the U.S. over to the U.N., he is not asking people to burn American flags, he has not converted the currency to Ameros, etc. etc.1
If three years into President Obama's term you want the country to celebrate his assassination you are a racist of the first water or you are a nut. Wanting Congress to impeach him and convict him in a fair trail is one thing. Wanting him murdered and expecting the country to celebrate really is insane.


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(1) one has only to look at Fox News message boards to to listen to local right wing radio to see that there are large numbers of people who believe that each of these items is a plank in the Democratic Party's platform.
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Fair enough. It might surprise people on these boards, but in real life I have a bad habit of being wayyyyyy too forgiving and understanding.
 
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