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NY Times editor resigns

This is something else to add to the discussion.

Howell Raines isn't the only one who has had some explaining to do at the once good, once gray New York Times. Brother Raines finally stepped down as executive editor last week, and nothing became his brief but disastrous tenure more than his ending it.

But for a casebook example of how journalism came to be considered one of the black arts, consider someone who's still at The Times — star columnist Maureen Dowd. She has just shown how to use a few little dots the way a magician does his silk handkerchief: to create an illusion.

Maureen the Magnificent needed only an ellipsis to pull off her trick and, hesto presto, the simple meaning of a presidential comment was changed. It's done like so, to quote her column of May 14:

"Busy chasing off Saddam, the president and vice president had told us that al Qaeda was spent. 'Al Qaeda is on the run,' the president said last week. 'That group of terrorists who attacked our country is slowly, but surely, being decimated. ... They're not a problem anymore.' "

Here is what the president actually said in Little Rock, Ark., on May 5, with the missing words in italics:

"Al Qaeda is on the run. That group of terrorists who attacked our country is slowly, but surely, being decimated. Right now, about half of all the top al Qaeda operatives are either jailed or dead. In either case, they're not a problem any more."

Makes quite a difference, doesn't it? The president was clearly referring to those terrorists jailed or dead not being a problem anymore — not the whole, murderous outfit. Q.E.D.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8355
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Off topic,

Baker

Might I ask why you have a quote from me in your sig?

That quote comes frm what Hitler ws saying about the Jews BTW. He was saying that the Jews were the liars. A lot of people think it swas some kind of self documentation about his own policies, but thats not what the statement was made in reference to. Despite that I think its still a true statement.
Malachi151
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Of course I assume that you are misinterpreting what I said and thinking that its anti-Semitic, which its not. I was saying that his statement on lies is true, in spite of the fact that he was talking about the Jews in his statement.

Here is the entire quote:

But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall [of Germany in WWI] precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betayers of the Fatherland to Justice. All this was inspired by the principle -- which is quite true in itself -- that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper stata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.

From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and exactly true. He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew "The Great Master of Lies." Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth to prevail.
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Obviously I do not agree with Hitler's views, I just find the quote about lies interesting.
 
Malachi151 said:
Off topic,

Baker

Might I ask why you have a quote from me in your sig?



Of course I assume that you are misinterpreting what I said and thinking that its anti-Semitic, which its not. I was saying that his statement on lies is true, in spite of the fact that he was talking about the Jews in his statement.
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You mean where he said That Jews where the Great Master of Lies?
 
Malachi151 said:
Off topic,

Baker

Might I ask why you have a quote from me in your sig?



Of course I assume that you are misinterpreting what I said and thinking that its anti-Semitic, which its not. I was saying that his statement on lies is true, in spite of the fact that he was talking about the Jews in his statement.

Here is the entire quote:
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I will be brief. I have two problems with you. First of all,you think, for a reason I fail to see, that you are smarter than the rest of us and the comment above proves it.

Second, I am not feeling comfortable with peopel who are ashamed of their ideas.

I wouldn't mind if you were an anti-semite. This would be your right and I would stand by you to help you fight those who would attack you for your ideas but I have observed for some time now that you choose to make subtle comments and silly jokes, like quoting Hitler in your signature.

So,Malachi.Don't be ashamed to admit that you are an anti-semite, if you are one. In fact, I'd love to discuss with an anti-semite in this forum but with a real one who is willing but above all capable to talk about blood and races.

Come- on Malachi, make my day.
 
Cleopatra said:


I will be brief. I have two problems with you. First of all,you think, for a reason I fail to see, that you are smarter than the rest of us and the comment above proves it.

Second, I am not feeling comfortable with peopel who are ashamed of their ideas.

I wouldn't mind if you were an anti-semite. This would be your right and I would stand by you to help you fight those who would attack you for your ideas but I have observed for some time now that you choose to make subtle comments and silly jokes, like quoting Hitler in your signature.

So,Malachi.Don't be ashamed to admit that you are an anti-semite, if you are one. In fact, I'd love to discuss with an anti-semite in this forum but with a real one who is willing but above all capable to talk about blood and races.

Come- on Malachi, make my day.
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LOL, if you want to know my views, just read my paper its very clear. I'm the biggest anti-anti-Semite you could find. I'm sorry that some people have a problem understanding honesty. I was just being honest about where the quote came from and what its original meaning was.

The way I see it Hitler was a master of propaganda and had an innate understanding of the human psyche, which is why he was able to manipulate so many people. As such I think that some of his observations about people are correct, such as his comments about how big lies are more believable than small ones.

Umm... I'm totally anti-fascist and a Marxist/Socialist sympathizer, I'm as anti-Nazi as you can get, and not on a superficial level like most people who are ignorant on the subject. I find the quote ironic and see it as turning it around and pointing the finger at the accuser.
 
It seems to me Malachi that you make the common mistake that people who have just discovered science do.Every huge book that is filled with platitudes doesn't mean that is a masterpiece.

I have asked you many times if you have read Mein Kampf.

When you will read this book, you will realize that Hitler was nothing. He wasn't either brilliant or master in propaganda.His book is a collage of various theories from Roman times up to his Era.

I see Hitler as someone who was succesful in responding to the needs of his society and he was just the right man to the right moment.

Now, as far as his abilities to manipulate the masses, I have some reservations. I can't really see people -who were smelling next to their village cremated bodies and did nothing about it, as victims of a great manipulator...

He was one of them and he was their leader, nothing more.

As for the quote about the big lies maybe you would like to know that it belonged to the great Cicero. One of the many quotes that the great Hitler stole, just to support his one and only theory: That Jews are evil and they must die.
 
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