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NWO-Boston Chapter Infiltrates Richard Gage Event

Mr.Herbert

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When I heard that Richard Gage was speaking in Boston. I PM'ed a couple of fellow operatives here at JREF. DGM and I decided we would meet up in Cambridge, Ma in the heart of Harvard Square.

We were unaware of the massive Harvard festival that was happening. Roads were closed and traffic was a nightmare. DGM arrived about 20 minutes prior to me, and was appropriately labeled by the truthers outside the church as a "shill." ;)

Once inside, we were forced to listen to 2 hours of pure filth. I was impressed and disturbed at the amount of people there. I would estimate the number to be around 60-70. I was impressed because I didn't think that many people would show up. I was disturbed because I didn't think that there were that many idiots in my city.

Gage did his unabridged 2 hour version of his slide show. It was filled with the typical crap that he has been peddling for what, 2 years now? DGM and I laughed through about 90% of his filth, and on a few occasions attempted to interrupt him with facts. Gage would not respond and continued his lies.

It was so bad, he actually played the McPadden interview. (the dolt that said he heard a countdown from a Red Cross radio just prior to WTC7 collapse) Gage was going on about it and I shouted out "So, the Red Cross does Controlled Demolitions now"? He briefly hesitated and continued on.

DGM and I sat next to the microphone so that at the end of his rant, we would be able to present some well thought out questions. Well, after three truthers asked questions, they ran out of time.

I was pissed! I sat through 2 hours of his horse (rule 12) and he couldn't stick around to answer questions? So, armed with a 3-ring binder with a printed copy of Ryan Mackey's white paper I approached the little man at his stage. I was very polite and introduced myself. I presented him the binder explaining what it contained. For those of you that are not aware, Gage claims that Dr. Griffin is the one who opened his eyes to 911 CT's. He said after listening to Griffin on the radio, it was "like getting hit in the head with a 2x4." I explained to him that Dr. Griffin was given two copies of this in the past and Dr. Griffin has failed to respond to Mr. Mackey. Gage tried to tell me that Dr. Griffin is not a "technical scientist" so I opened up the binder to read part of page one to him explaining that the paper was refuting the claims made by Dr. Griffin. He told me he would have members of his team read it and contact Ryan Mackey with their questions. He said that they would have to find some time. I told him that he could read it on his 24 hour flight to Sydney Australia next week.

DMG (who was now at the stage with me and several truthers) reminded me about the open letter Greg Urich had sent Gage over a year ago. I handed him a copy of it. Gage said, "Oh, I know Greg." I asked him why he hasn't responded to him. Gage's reply was that he is busy, and that he has "meant to." I then said, "you know he refutes your entire front page of your website." His reply.. "Oh no he doesn't" I told him that he should read it and get back to Greg. He said he would. So Greg, Gage was hand delivered a copy of your open letter to him. He said he would be getting back to you. :rolleyes:

Gage was polite and thanked me for being a "good sport." I shook his hand and walked away. DMG and I were approached after this by many truthers including some of Gage's traveling circus. They presented the same old tired crap you have all heard over and over. We directed most of them here, Mike's 911Myths, Screwloosechange, and Joe's AE911truth.info site.

Gage and company asked for a minimum 10 dollar donation at the door. About 1/2 way through the presentation, he summoned his "ushers" to pass around donation buckets for everyone to put in more money. He pimped his DVD's, Steven Jones DVD's, and was even selling copies of 911 Mysteries. The truthers were unaware that Sophia had doctored the audio and in the middle of getting sued.

All in all, I was glad I was there. I missed seeing my Red Sox eliminated from the playoffs and my Partiot's losing in overtime to the Broncos.
 
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I watched a section of the lecture from a link CE posted in the general discussion area and actually took screen shots. I'm curious if you saw one of the pics Gage used in his presentation when he was talking about the molten steel cannard. Because I got a quick glimpse after minimizing my screen to do some of design work and it looked like he took one of those pics right off of the whatreallyhappened website. Can you confirm for me if he actually did that? Because I know WRH has a nasty reputation for using faked photos, especially to support "photographic evidence" for the claim.
 
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When I heard that Richard Gage was speaking in Boston. I PM'ed a couple of fellow operatives here at JREF. DGM and I decided we would meet up in Cambridge, Ma in the heart of Harvard Square.

We were unaware of the massive Harvard festival that was happening. Roads were closed and traffic was a nightmare. DGM arrived about 20 minutes prior to me, and was appropriately labeled by the truthers outside the church as a "shill." ;)

Once inside, we were forced to listen to 2 hours of pure filth. I was impressed and disturbed at the amount of people there. I would estimate the number to be around 60-70. I was impressed because I didn't think that many people would show up. I was disturbed because I didn't think that there were that many idiots in my city.

Gage did his unabridged 2 hour version of his slide show. It was filled with the typical crap that he has been peddling for what, 2 years now? DGM and I laughed through about 90% of his filth, and on a few occasions attempted to interrupt him with facts. Gage would not respond and continued his lies.

It was so bad, he actually played the McPadden interview. (the dolt that said he heard a countdown from a Red Cross radio just prior to WTC7 collapse) Gage was going on about it and I shouted out "So, the Red Cross does Controlled Demolitions now"? He briefly hesitated and continued on.

DGM and I sat next to the microphone so that at the end of his rant, we would be able to present some well thought out questions. Well, after three truthers asked questions, they ran out of time.

I was pissed! I sat through 2 hours of his horse (rule 12) and he couldn't stick around to answer questions? So, armed with a 3-ring binder with a printed copy of Ryan Mackey's white paper I approached the little man at his stage. I was very polite and introduced myself. I presented him the binder explaining what it contained. For those of you that are not aware, Gage claims that Dr. Griffin is the one who opened his eyes to 911 CT's. He said after listening to Griffin on the radio, it was "like getting hit in the head with a 2x4." I explained to him that Dr. Griffin was given two copies of this in the past and Dr. Griffin has failed to respond to Mr. Mackey. Gage tried to tell me that Dr. Griffin is not a "technical scientist" so I opened up the binder to read part of page one to him explaining that the paper was refuting the claims made by Dr. Griffin. He told me he would have members of his team read it and contact Ryan Mackey with their questions. He said that they would have to find some time. I told him that he could read it on his 24 hour flight to Sydney Australia next week.

DMG (who was now at the stage with me and several truthers) reminded me about the open letter Greg Urich had sent Gage over a year ago. I handed him a copy of it. Gage said, "Oh, I know Greg." I asked him why he hasn't responded to him. Gage's reply was that he is busy, and that he has "meant to." I then said, "you know he refutes your entire front page of your website." His reply.. "Oh no he doesn't" I told him that he should read it and get back to Greg. He said he would. So Greg, Gage was hand delivered a copy of your open letter to him. He said he would be getting back to you. :rolleyes:

Gage was polite and thanked me for being a "good sport." I shook his hand and walked away. DMG and I were approached after this by many truthers including some of Gage's traveling circus. They presented the same old tired crap you have all heard over and over. We directed most of them here, Mike's 911Myths, Screwloosechange, and Joe's AE911truth.info site.

Gage and company asked for a minimum 10 dollar donation at the door. About 1/2 way through the presentation, he summoned his "ushers" to pass around donation buckets for everyone to put in more money. He pimped his DVD's, Steven Jones DVD's, and was even selling copies of 911 Mysteries. The truthers were unaware that Sophia had doctored the audio and in the middle of getting sued.

All in all, I was glad I was there. I missed seeing my Red Sox eliminated from the playoffs and my Partiot's losing in overtime to the Broncos.

Why, if I had known you two guys were going, I would have showed up in my Sox jersey!!m I took a suprise trip this weekend. WOO HOO!! Gotta love Frequent Flier Miles!!

Anyway, did he do his little exit poll??
 
Gage and company asked for a minimum 10 dollar donation at the door. About 1/2 way through the presentation, he summoned his "ushers" to pass around donation buckets for everyone to put in more money.


Let me get this straight...

  1. This event was held in a church, and
  2. Donations were collected in the same manner as is done during church sermons (Roman Catholic, at least)?

I'm not sure how this could be made anymore obvious to truthers: you're part of a religion.
 
Serious question: Where is the aptly-named and unemployed Dick Gage getting all of this money to travel around the world? Dude is literally all over the place. Does he charge money to listen to his "talk"? I know that AE911 has an online store(why wouldn't they?) and they expect their members to make donations, but I thought I read something where they made only a fraction of their expected donations. So how is he doing it?
 
There is no telling. You see, any donations are aparently funneled into the Agape Foundation out of California. TAF is a legit 501(c)(3). However, AE911Truth is not. There is no way to tell how much money goes back to AE bs.

Yes, he does collect his own donations. At least, that is what I have heard. Scumbag he is.

ETA: BTW, I have TAF's form 990 from 2007. I can't really understand it though.
 
Serious question: Where is the aptly-named and unemployed Dick Gage getting all of this money to travel around the world? Dude is literally all over the place. Does he charge money to listen to his "talk"? I know that AE911 has an online store(why wouldn't they?) and they expect their members to make donations, but I thought I read something where they made only a fraction of their expected donations. So how is he doing it?

My guess would be that he hits up his members for more money once he's got them on the hook, claiming something like an "action alert1" or "we're this close to [goal] but we need your help!" The NRA used similar tactics when I was a member (which is why I'm no longer a member).

Or like all good con artists, he's got more going on behind the scenes than meets the eye. Think Max Bialystock... eeew.

Now I feel bad for all the widows.
 
There is no telling. You see, any donations are aparently funneled into the Agape Foundation out of California. TAF is a legit 501(c)(3). However, AE911Truth is not. There is no way to tell how much money goes back to AE bs.

Yes, he does collect his own donations. At least, that is what I have heard. Scumbag he is.

ETA: BTW, I have TAF's form 990 from 2007. I can't really understand it though.


Yeah, but I just don't see people donating enough for him to do what he has. And how is he living on top of the travelling? His unemployment must have run out by now....
And another question for the tax savvy members, if he is using donations solely to travel around and to live off of, wouldn't he be subject to income tax?

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My guess would be that he hits up his members for more money once he's got them on the hook, claiming something like an "action alert1" or "we're this close to [goal] but we need your help!" The NRA used similar tactics when I was a member (which is why I'm no longer a member).


What do they say? "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." If that's how he's doing it, he won't be able to keep it up. Thankfully.
 
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I don't know. I just sent an email to TAF to find out how much goes back to AE911BS. But, the problem is, there is no telling how much he is "paying himself" as they are not a valid NPO.

He is a scumbag none the less. Imagine all the fees he could charage people for thier little membership!??!?!!?!

Damn, if it wasn't for the fact that I have class, and morals,a conscience and all that kinda stuff, I might be intersted in starting my own little scam.
 
Oops, sorry, didn't mean to summon you..:D

S'okay - it never occurred to me that everyone didn't get what it says until a somewhat legendary poster in this section mentioned after almost two years, "Crud! I just realized what your screen name says!"

ETA: I should have said, "I paraphrase". When I said "legendary", I mean legendary! He's liable to come in here and debunk my statement with the actual quote and link. So let's be clear - I am paraphrasing from memory.
 
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Serious question: Where is the aptly-named and unemployed Dick Gage getting all of this money to travel around the world? Dude is literally all over the place. Does he charge money to listen to his "talk"? I know that AE911 has an online store(why wouldn't they?) and they expect their members to make donations, but I thought I read something where they made only a fraction of their expected donations. So how is he doing it?


For this type of speaking tour, pretty often the people hosting the event will pay for the travel expenses and a speaking fee. In other words, the flock is fleeced by the local representatives prior to the presentation, and then again at the presentation. Parasites such as Gage are lucky that fleece grows quickly and fleecing is relatively painless.

ETA: In these cases, only the speaking fee is subject to income tax. Yes, this is based on personal experience.
 
:th: Kudos to Mr. Herbert and DGM for presenting Gage with Mr. Mackey's whitepaper and Gregory Urich's open letter.

Shame on Gage for never having read them after all this time. :nope:

Mr. H and DGM, I hope Big Owl gives you a reward for sitting through 2 hours of Gage's BS. I especially hope it's a reward that's better than NWO Agent #357's.
 
Let me get this straight...

  1. This event was held in a church, and
  2. Donations were collected in the same manner as is done during church sermons (Roman Catholic, at least)?

I'm not sure how this could be made anymore obvious to truthers: you're part of a religion.



That was exactly my thought.


I don't know. I just sent an email to TAF to find out how much goes back to AE911BS. But, the problem is, there is no telling how much he is "paying himself" as they are not a valid NPO.



Here's a question: what sort of expenses would A&ETruth have, beyond Gage's salary? It's not like they're out there engaging in actual research, or anything. All I've ever seen him do is fly about, giving the same talk he's given for years now. And as Hok has mentioned, most of the expenses of those talks were probably covered by the hosts.

Near as I can tell, every other dollar collected would go straight to Gage.
 
But at least every other dollar of that would go to Gage's ex-wife. :)

Not necessarily under California Law. Gage could be very well sticking his ex for alimony, if he's played his cards right.

I'd be interested in hearing what an IRS agent or attorney would have to say about this thread.

Bwuaaahahahaa!
 
And the quote is actually "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

Strategery!



Back on topic....

Since Mr. Herbert reports about 70 people, and them asking for a $10 chip-in at the door, let's assume 75% do so. That's about $525.
And let's assume when they pass the plate that the get another, say, $200, and then another $200 in sales (or which $150 is pure profit).

That's $875.00. Not bad for a night's work, but certainly not enough to cover the air tickets, so he'd need to be booking back-to-back-to-back one-nighters. Any idea if he's done Hartford or NYC or Portland (or University towns) in the days or nights surrounding that date?
 

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