NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

[tsig]

But just stating i work there is not like if you dislcose something.

It states "personnel are encouraged not to draw attention" it does not state you must not.

When the boss says "encouraged not to draw attention" it usually means you will be neck deep in do-do if you do.

 

[Mr. Skinny]

Just think to ourselves for a moment.

If Ultima1 really is who he claims he is, an NSA analyst, working for the DoD, would he need to file an FOIA request to get an UNCLASSIFIED/DECLASSIFIED version of a document?

I mean according to the letter he showed us, did the woman responding to the request, tell him as much??
TAM

Actually, I just did my 1st quarter security briefing today (online) and one of the powerpoint slides specifically said DoD agencies did not need to use the FOIA process.

EDIT: Ultima, will you please learn to use the quote function properly?

You keep quoting me on your material and vice versa.

Come on, this shouldn't be too hard for a NSA analyst. I don't want your statements attributed to me, and if you continue, I'll be "immature" and "cry like a baby" to the mods.

 

[TJM]

Actually, I just did my 1st quarter security briefing today (online) and one of the powerpoint slides specifically said DoD agencies did not need to use the FOIA process.

EDIT: Ultima, will you please learn to use the quote function properly?

You keep quoting me on your material and vice versa.

Come on, this shouldn't be too hard for a NSA analyst. I don't want your statements attributed to me, and if you continue, I'll be "immature" and "cry like a baby" to the mods.

I'm pretty sure he does that on purpose. It makes it harder to track his quotes. Not that much harder though.

 

[Sabrina]

Well at least you can admit something.

As far as the TS clearence with SI (TS/SI) it is what i hold as i have been stating.

Really? Been read on for any other subsets? Just curious; you seem to willing to divulge sensitive info on the internet, why not share the others? Or is SI the only one?

Assuming you're telling the truth (which I still find EXTREMELY hard to believe), you're stating it wrong then. There's a way you're supposed to indicate that you have the capability to be read on for certain subsets, and it isn't by tacking their abbreviations onto the TS abbreviation. Can you figure out where you're going wrong with this here, or are you going to obfuscate some more?

 

[fitzgibbon]

Ladies and gentlemen,

I think we can pretty much agree that U1 is neither what nor who he claims to be as his oh-so-many gaffs have demonstrated. Might I propose that it's probably best to let this thread slide until or unless there is anything forthcoming on the FOIA request front (which I expect we'll get a verifiable accounting of from 16.5) when and/or/as/if it comes to pass.

Ultima1 is your garden-variety narcissist of the 'I don't care what you say about me so long as you pay attention to me' model. Best to keep your powder dry for such arguments that are more likely to render intelligent discussion as "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin" or "Does this dress make me look fat" or "Will the Leafs take a Cup in the 21st Century?".

 

[TjW]

<snippage>
If for some reason it turns out he is an NSA employee, I think someone in U1's Security office needs to be fired.

Ah, here's where we disagree. Take the position of an opponent, sizing up the efficacy of the American intelligence community.
You follow up on page after page of a known analyst's public output, trying to gauge the subtlety and depth of work done in secret. You consider how ably complex sets of facts are correlated. You weigh carefully the ability to clearly exposit conclusions to other people.
What opinion do you develop of U.S. capabilities? It's freaking brilliant. The guy deserves a raise.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Really? Been read on for any other subsets? Just curious; you seem to willing to divulge sensitive info on the internet, why not share the others? Or is SI the only one?

He's stated here that he's been read into SIX compartments.

SIX!

So, that would make his clearance level TS/SI/HAARP/MAJESTIC12/LINDBERGH/KFCSECRETRECIPE/BARBARASTREISAND.

 

[Sparky]

Well at least you can admit something.

As far as the TS clearence with SI (TS/SI) it is what i hold as i have been stating.

Give it up, Junior. You have no credibility left. Your daily drive-bys are not helping your cause, either.

Most of us are content to ignore your petty rants about immature behavior and your desperate pleas for attention and are willing to patiently wait for 16.5 to post the FOIA result if and when it arrives.

Just face the facts. There isn't a single person left on this forum that believes you are who you say you are.

 

[TJM]

It is so easy and fun to prove you wrong with facts and evidence. There are two levels of KFCSECRETRECIPE. I happen to have read both original and extra crispy compartments. Thanks for admitting that you don't know anything about how us sooper-sekrit gman spooks operate.

 

[ULTIMA1]

You fail to follow your guidelines from the NSA you pretend you work for.

Wrong again, i have not failed to follow guidlines. I have posted more then enough information to prove who i work for

 

[ULTIMA1]

First you admit that you're not allowed to discuss the contents of this CRITIC....then a few posts later you make a statement regarding the contents of said CRITIC.

No i made a statement about what the internet states is in the Critic, nowhere have i discussed the contents of the actual critic.

 

[fitzgibbon]

No i made a statement about what the internet states is in the Critic, nowhere have i discussed the contents of the actual critic.

So, is it fair to say that any comment you've made about the 'internet CRITIC' is a wank?

Just askin'.

 

[ULTIMA1]

NO. This has aleady been proven.

Wrong again.

http://www.ntsb.gov/Abt_NTSB/invest.htm
once it has been established that a transportation tragedy is, in fact, a criminal act, the FBI becomes the lead federal investigative body, with the NTSB providing any requested support.

So who has the equipment to do the investigations for the 9/11 FDR and CVR, the FBI or the NTSB?

 

[ULTIMA1]

You don't have a clearance you don't know the rules!

Prove that i do not have a clearence. I have proven that i there is a TS/SI clearence so prove that i do not have a clearence or admit you are wrong.

 

[ULTIMA1]

I'm not sure how close you've been following this but awhile back there was a poster here by the name of No Such Agency who pretty much blew U1 out of the water.

No he did not blow me out of the water, in fact he left when i asked for a face to face meeting.

But just as with the others who have shredded him when he's blabbered his way into their feilds of expertise, the song remains the same even when he's been caught dead to rights.

I have posted more then enough infomration to prove who i work for its not my fault if you cannot figure it out.

 

[ULTIMA1]

But hasn't someone else already seen the document and posted the contents on the public internet?

No the actual contents of the document are not posted on the internet.

You also say that the wording is slightly different between the two versions. How did that come about?

The actual document is classified so the infomration on the public internet cannot be word for word.

 

[ULTIMA1]

I'd report him myself, but I know at least one other poster has said he called the NSA about him.

You do not even know what to report. I have not posted anything that is a securtiy breach.

If for some reason it turns out he is an NSA employee, I think someone in U1's Security office needs to be fired.

I have posted more then enoug information to prove who i work for and again have not made any security breach.

 

[ULTIMA1]

AFTER Sabrina nearly beat him over the head with information. This change in attitude only occurred quite some time after he initially argued about it.

She did not beat me over the head with information. I have proven and will keep proving that there is a TS/SI clearence.

I just hope you can be mature and sane enough to admit to the facts i have and can show.

 

[ULTIMA1]

If Ultima1 really is who he claims he is, an NSA analyst, working for the DoD, would he need to file an FOIA request to get an UNCLASSIFIED/DECLASSIFIED version of a document?/quote

Gee, you really so not kno whow to read do you.

I have psoted now for the hundredth time that i filed an FOIA request on hotmail so i could post it online.

I suggest in the future you read post or get someone to hwlp you read post.

I mean according to the letter he showed us, did the woman responding to the request, tell him as much?

Please read the cooment so you know what it states. I stated that i di dnot need to post a exteranl FoIA request but i did so i could show it to you immature and closed minded people.

 

[Mince]

Mods:

After over over 7 months, 2,000 posts and 42 pages, I think this thread's usefulness has expired, or at least seriously decayed. Perhaps it should be put into hybernation and, if the OP ever does receive the elusive document referenced in the OP, he can link to this thread in a new one. The key, however, is that the document has to have been received. As it is now, we're just wasting 1s and 0s. The biggest (only?) debate for a long time and many pages has been the veracity of ULTIMA1's claim of working for the NSA. It's a textbook scenario for thread closure and I know you've closed many other threads sooner and for lesser transgressions. The OP clearly cannot or will not provide the promised document. Being so, there is nothing to discuss or debate in this thread. It has become a random post clearing house serving no usefull function.

I apologize to anyone (except ULTIMA1) who might be having fun here. Anyway, that's how I feel about it.