NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

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good find, Mr. Herbert!

ULTIMA1 clearly states "The NSA has one in thier archives that states Flight 93 was shot down"

His own words.
 
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Yep, You're pretty much done here Ultima. The only thing left to do is have contest on what you'll name your sock.

("ThisIsn'tRoger" or "ULTIMA2" would be bad choices.)
 
1. As stated before. The old gray line phones were gray the newer ones are off white
True, but it sure did take a long time to answer. Especially after you insisted that they were gray, and I had to tell you they weren't, and you still disagreed for a while.

2. Sorry but as stated my system is Top Secret it has that displayed on the top of the screen, you do not need to know anymore.
Wrong, see below.

3. The number of digits is 7.
Correct. Why did it take so long for you to answer?

4. I have already stated i have given out my old black phone number, i am not giving out my black or secure number again.
Failure. Your refusal does not make sense in this context. If you simply did not want random internet people calling your hone, that is solved by providing a number they cannot call. You have failed to do this, the only explanation could be that you do not have access to a secure phone. If you did, why wouldn't you post the number? You've already given out your full name, address, sid, picture, etc... what is a phone number? If you are who you say then one could get this phone number using only your name. The only explanation is you do not have such a phone number.

5. I started at the agency under GSA. The police were under GSA until October 1986 when the agency took them over.
Irrelevant. When you were first given access to NSA facilities you would have to have received two compartments.

As you said above, and else where, you supposedly access this document over Intelink-TS. The classification of Intelink-TS is higher than the answer you provided in #2. You seem to be unable to provide an answer to #5. If you can access the document as you say, one would think you would know the classification of the system you used to access the document, as well as the clearance level required to use the system (including the specific compartments needed). Since you don't, the only logical conclusion is that you do not have access to that system.

The sad part is this information is probably available on the internet, JoeyDonuts private messaged me that he though #5 was too easy of a question, and that he readily knew the answer. I actually agreed, but it appears you have failed.

You have left huge logical holes in your identity claims and I have no choice but to officially certify that you do not work for the NSA.

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In addition to these screen shots, Roger admits a few pages ago that he indeed read the critic.

Originally Posted by Mr.Herbert
You claimed to have read the classified version because you claim to have access to these files. You filed an FOIA request to get the declassified version. .


Ultima1 said:
Yes and have posted the FOIA request and the letter from the NSA FOIA office that states the document exist and they are sending it to me.
 
I don't know why you continue to pick on ULTIMA1. He's proven he's an NSA analyst, has a security clearance, and isn't violating any laws by posting about classified documents.

He's also proven the existance of three alternate universes, aether, cold fusion, and the tooth fairy.

So lay off. 'kay? He's the real deal!
 
Nice find by Mr. Herbert on Rogers posts ATS.

Roger, those posts are from 2005. Why did you wait over 3 years before even filing your FOIA request if you've been spouting the same nonsense for years?

And, yes, we can call you a liar all we want and it's not a rule breach. The reason is because it's TRUE...you've severely contradicted your own statements several times in this thread alone which makes you a proven liar.
 
Nice find by Mr. Herbert on Rogers posts ATS.

Roger, those posts are from 2005. Why did you wait over 3 years before even filing your FOIA request if you've been spouting the same nonsense for years?

And, yes, we can call you a liar all we want and it's not a rule breach. The reason is because it's TRUE...you've severely contradicted your own statements several times in this thread alone which makes you a proven liar.

To be fair to the kid, those posts are from 2008. 2005 is when he registered there.

I were him, I would just leave. Every time he posts here, he will be reminded about the fact that he is a proven liar.
 
To be fair to the kid, those posts are from 2008. 2005 is when he registered there.

I were him, I would just leave. Every time he posts here, he will be reminded about the fact that he is a proven liar.


Quick question for those of you who peruse ATS, is there anyone at ATS who believes U1 is an NSA analyst?
 
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1. You have been making claims that, if true, would implicate many people of crimes.

What crimes? the government decided there enough going on that day without telling them about a posible intercept and shootdown.

2. What facts and/or evidence have you provided on this matter? Please show me.

I have shown the FOIA request sent to NSA.

I have shown the letter recieved from NSA that the document i asked for (possibly showing an intercept and shoot down) does exist and they are sending it to me.
 
actually, thats not what it says.

This has been discussed several pages back over and over again.

Are you trying to troll this thread with information already discussed/dismissed? :confused:
 
The letter states that the document i asked for (that a plane, possibly flight 93 was intercepted) does exist.

Lying again!

At no point in that letter does is say that any interception of any plane ever took place on 9/11.

All your letter says is that they received your FOIA request and you're going to the end of the queue. Period. End of letter.
 
True, but it sure did take a long time to answer. Especially after you insisted that they were gray, and I had to tell you they weren't, and you still disagreed for a while.

If you look back i did answer the questions before.


Irrelevant. When you were first given access to NSA facilities you would have to have received two compartments.

It is relevant becasue being on the police force we had different inprocessing then most employees.


You have left huge logical holes in your identity claims and I have no choice but to officially certify that you do not work for the NSA..

Well when is a good time for to meet again so i can prove how wrong you are.
 
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What crimes? the government decided there enough going on that day without telling them about a posible intercept and shootdown.



I have shown the FOIA request sent to NSA.

I have shown the letter recieved from NSA that the document i asked for (possibly showing an intercept and shoot down) does exist and they are sending it to me.

Q1. When you sent the request, did you ask for a particularly named document, or simply ask "please provide documents regarding the intercept of flight93 on 9/11 2001?

Q2. Was there reply the following (or something very similar)?

"We have received your request, and are in the process of retrieving all documents related to that request".

OR

was it more like,

"We have received your request for document X, and are in the process of retrieving this document for you".

OR like this,

"We have received your request for information related to 'flight 93 intercept on 9/11/2001' and are presently processing said request."

I will go back to look at your FOIA form to see if it answers my questions, but the wording is often very key in these requests.

TAM:)
 
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