Notice from Randi re Yellow Bamboo

LeFevre said:

Dont test tasers or stun guns on yourself!!
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Um, don't worry! :) I wouldn't even test running in the sand by myself. I could trip and land on a shell or jellyfish.

I guess a tripwire is a possibility, especially if the attacker was at the head of the group the whole time.
 
Was the ground wet? Isn't it possible to pass a current through wet sand or ground, enough to affect the leg muscles? This would also account for the twitching once the person is on the ground.

If the attempt was made on a sand surface, what's to keep the perpetrators from burying a grid under the sand, through which to pass an electrical current?

No sparks required...
 
From stills taken from the 12 second video, enlarged then enhanced, am I imagining things or am I one of just a few out there who distinctly see an arm, and its hand holding a tube shaped apparatus which is making contact with the attacker?

If it is not someones arm and hand holding a device which is contacting the attacker, then someone please tell me what else it could possibly be.
 
Pyrrho said:
Was the ground wet? Isn't it possible to pass a current through wet sand or ground, enough to affect the leg muscles?
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Differential ground voltage (i.e., different voltage at one spot in the ground with respect to a nearby spot) is one way that passersby get electrocuted if a piece of equipment (such as a crane or a backhoe) comes in contact with a high-voltage power line.

Can current go through the dirt? If the voltage is high enough, you bet it can.
 
Brown said:

Can current go through the dirt? If the voltage is high enough, you bet it can.
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This was on a beach. It would depend on how close they are to the tide line.
 
Here is a contrast, brightness adjusted black and white still of one of the frames from the 12 second video...I eliminated some of the other bright areas of the photo...

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Something still bothered me about this, so I looked back at the James Randi commentaries.

July 4, 2003
Volunteers needed! After months of back-and-forth, the "Yellow Bamboo" martial arts group has finally agreed to a protocol for a preliminary test re the JREF million-dollar prize. We're now looking for someone in their area to supervise that test.

- 12 second video is shot -

September 19, 2003
A man who visited Bali to test the "Yellow Bamboo" group, who make supernatural claims that they can knock down an attacker just by shouting, has reported to me that he actually fell to the ground during the test!

September 26, 2003
Just recall that my protocol required that Mr. Joko Tri simply walk up and "tap" their "superman" Nyoman Serengen on the leg with a small bamboo stick, which was not the protocol followed, for some reason or other.

October 3, 2003
I told him that though he appeared to have the right qualifications, and that I would normally accept him to do the preliminary test, I'd officially severed my connections with them. But, I told Joko, he was quite free to go there and see what happened, if they'd let him do so.


First JR talks about a "protocol for a preliminary test". Then after the 12 second video, JR again mentions "the test" and the "protocol". At this point, I thought JR was talking about the preliminary test, and I think it's reasonable for people to think this. He said he was talking about the preliminary test when he started talking about it, and he never said otherwise.

Then after the 12 second video was circulated for a week, JR says he had really terminated involvement with the Yellow Bamboo group, and the test was not a test but to "go there and see what happened".

I'm not saying JR is lying or that Yellow Bamboo can do what they claim. I'm just saying that I think JR didn't release information on this matter very well. I think JR left himself open for criticism with the appearance of changing what he is saying after someone claimed to pass the preliminary test. Maybe he was having a little fun with us all, but I think he caused needless confusion. I mean this as constructive criticism.
 
michaellee said:
Here is a contrast, brightness adjusted black and white still of one of the frames from the 12 second video...I eliminated some of the other bright areas of the photo...
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I don't understand what that "enhanced" photo means to you, and just why converting from color to B&W does anything useful, but to me, it looks like the glass tower on the Moon that Richard Hoagland claims exists. Or maybe the Face On Mars.

Send it over to the Anomoly Hunters for an expert analysis. But be sure to tell them it is a Loch Ness Monster photo first so you don't lead them astray. :roll:
 
I don't understand what that "enhanced" photo means to you, and just why converting from color to B&W does anything useful, but to me, it looks like the glass tower on the Moon that Richard Hoagland claims exists. Or maybe the Face On Mars.
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The photo is really of a Green Bay Packer fan who lost his head of cheese while attempting to do the "wave".
 
A few critical frames:

In frame 1, Mr. Tri approaches.

In frame 2, something other than a person appears behind Mr. Tri.

In frame 3, the object is quite evident. Looks like a fabric tube of some kind, possibly a sleeve?

In frame 4, immediately after this object appears, Mr. Tri falls.
 
Pyrrho said:
In frame 3, the object is quite evident. Looks like a fabric tube of some kind, possibly a sleeve?

In frame 4, immediately after this object appears, Mr. Tri falls.
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Seems to me that the "sleeve" is already visible in frame 1, maybe it's there from the beginning
 
Patricio Elicer said:
Seems to me that the "sleeve" is already visible in frame 1, maybe it's there from the beginning
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No, actually, it's only visible in frames 2 and 3. There are background objects visible in earlier frames; this thing is bigger and closer to the camera.
 
Pyrrho said:

No, actually, it's only visible in frames 2 and 3. There are background objects visible in earlier frames; this thing is bigger and closer to the camera.
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I think it's difficult to be conclusive about that, as Mr. Tri is directly in front of the 'object' in frame 1, and it would be at least partly off-frame to the left in frame 4. The low chronological resolution of the video makes it very difficult.
 
Now is that object an arm, or a leg? It seems that some possible opinions are:

1. arm, and hand contained some stun/shock device

2. leg, whose foot kicked the attacker hard in the back which caused muscle spasms/twitching
 
T'ai Chi said:
Now is that object an arm, or a leg? It seems that some possible opinions are:

1. arm, and hand contained some stun/shock device

2. leg, whose foot kicked the attacker hard in the back which caused muscle spasms/twitching
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Eh, it looks like an anomaly to me. No use speculating, I guess. There's only so much you can see in a 160x112 pixel image.
 
Pyrrho said:
No, actually, it's only visible in frames 2 and 3. There are background objects visible in earlier frames; this thing is bigger and closer to the camera.
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I agree with arcticpenguin that it's hard to be conclusive, but anyway I stand by my perception that the "sleeve" is a bit visible in frame 1, behind Mr. Tri, close to his left elbow.

Edit: It's notable however, that in frame 4 it seems to have disappeared.
 
Pyrrho said:

Eh, it looks like an anomaly to me. No use speculating, I guess. There's only so much you can see in a 160x112 pixel image.
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A few days ago I ran the video through some simple image processing filters. I just adjusted the contrast and brightness to try to avoid any filter induced errors.

In the filtered video it is obvious (IMHO) that it is the person's leg kicking him from behind. With the improved video, you can actually see much more of the leg dressed in black. Gee, a dark environment, yellow shirt to focus your attention and dark pants to hide the legs. Wow, what a plan.

Of course, this still doesn't prevent me from seeing what I want to see.
 
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