Not another one?

[fallout]

The Prisonplanet clan seems to be absolutely sure it was and they're using the way the news is reporting it as their "evidence."

Wow, that I have to see. May I ask for the link(s) with no challenging tone?

That's simple to resolve , just have them to talk to the mother. There could be a theory in which the cops open fire at the guy, and etc etc, but the fact that he was caught on a gunstore purchase and then ran away when his mother questioned what purchase it was, makes it hard to place a false flag scenario. He wouldn't go to the pentagon with two pistols for "asking some questions".

Speaking about this, did they identify the actual purchase he done at the gunstore yet? The store records, bill , etc?

 

[fallout]

Here it is
http://www.prisonplanet.com/conspiracy-fact-every-major-terror-plot-in-u-s-was-contrived.html

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Here it is
http://www.prisonplanet.com/conspiracy-fact-every-major-terror-plot-in-u-s-was-contrived.html

They're classifying the recent Pentagon shooting as a "major terror plot"? I'll say it again: these idiots have a total and disturbing lack of perspective.

 

[OneShotKi11]

Man walks up and tries shooting pentagon police, gets gunned down for being a terrible shot, and somehow the government was in on it?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Do truthers realize Jones is just squeezing money out of their moronic beliefs? They eat it up everytime.

 

[BenBurch]

http://en.allexperts.com/e/r/ru/russia_today_tv.htm

Its a propaganda mill.

 

[Jackanory]

Here it is
http://www.prisonplanet.com/conspiracy-fact-every-major-terror-plot-in-u-s-was-contrived.html

Not the false flag ditty. Geez you guys will fall for it every time. This fool being the typical poster at Prisonplanet -


March 6th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Incriminally Sane Says:
Problem, Reaction, Solution

"The Hegelian playbook that the US Government utilizes for EVERY False Flag they run. I think people are starting to come to the realization that the US System of Government has been Hijacked and as stated in the movie “V for Vendetta”, “There is something terribly wrong with this country”, and once they come to the realization that America has undergone a COUP when John F. Kennedy was assassinated.

When they finally understand how the new system functions, there will be an awakening and hysteria that America hasn’t experienced since the revolution"

'V' and the 'matrix'. Need i say more. I am so relieved that my kids reached maturity early on.

 

[aggle-rithm]

March 6th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Incriminally Sane Says:
Problem, Reaction, Solution

"The Hegelian playbook that the US Government utilizes for EVERY False Flag they run. I think people are starting to come to the realization that the US System of Government has been Hijacked and as stated in the movie “V for Vendetta”, “There is something terribly wrong with this country”,

I could be wrong, but I don't think they were referring to America when they said "this country" in "V for Vendetta".

 

[Travis]

I could be wrong, but I don't think they were referring to America when they said "this country" in "V for Vendetta".

Next thing you know you'll be saying it wasn't a documentary, that becoming part of a faceless mass all dressed the same isn't a good way to express individuality and that Natalie Portman wouldn't totally be cool with someone abducting her and shaving her head.

 

[Travis]

Wow, that I have to see. May I ask for the link(s) with no challenging tone?

That's simple to resolve , just have them to talk to the mother. There could be a theory in which the cops open fire at the guy, and etc etc, but the fact that he was caught on a gunstore purchase and then ran away when his mother questioned what purchase it was, makes it hard to place a false flag scenario. He wouldn't go to the pentagon with two pistols for "asking some questions".

Speaking about this, did they identify the actual purchase he done at the gunstore yet? The store records, bill , etc?

Here it is
http://www.prisonplanet.com/conspiracy-fact-every-major-terror-plot-in-u-s-was-contrived.html

Also: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=162267.0;topicseen
& http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=162215.0

Edit, it looks like they blocked the first one.

 

[Thunder]

How are you sure that is fundend by Kremlin? I can see they post many things which aren't cover on mainstream, but are you sure it's funded by Kremlin?

yes. i am. 100% sure.

"Western state and commercial media claim that RT has close ties with the Russian state authorities[10][11][12][13][14] and a few years after the channel started broadcasting, for being a "cheerleader" of the Kremlin,[12] applying positive spin to reports about governmental institutions, refraining from criticizing Prime Minister and former Russian president Vladimir Putin or the government, and deliberately and incessantly engaging in US/NATO/EU-bashing through "interviews" in which only Russian ultra-nationalists or highly critical, anti-western "experts" are interviewed--without any probing questions or challenges by the RT reporters, and without even bothering to hear opposing points of view.[2] RT itself claims to be funded by the Russian government, and on-air presenters also confirm that the network is a "Government Agency".[15] [16] A CBC News story contains allegations that RT is "a continuation of the old Soviet propaganda services".[2] Western commercial media, including The New York Times, routinely call it "state-run".[17]"

 

[Lord Tsukasa]

Oh, look....now Russia Today is covering the Truther side of this, and giving Luke Rudekowski air time.

****ing anti-American, Kremlin funded pigs.



how can these Truthers claim to love America and yet be the pawns of Vladimir Putin???????

Since all of you are quick to connect this patsy (John Patrick Bedell) with all truthers, perhaps I should attempt to connect the quoted buffoon with all debunkers. Now, would that be fair?

 

[Lord Tsukasa]

Apparently you guys can explain to me why someone who believed that the military was involved in the drug trade and killed witnesses to it's corruption would submit a project in to DARPA, the Pentagon's research wing, in 2004.

Maybe you'd also like to tell me why the police/military initially reported that they were scrutinizing a second man, yet the story has disappeared and they have still not given any clue as to the man's identity and what made them worthy of scrutiny. Is this story going to fall into the same pit that "John Doe #2" and the Fort Hood Massacre accomplices did?

I'm also curious about why the police/government say that there is surveillance footage showing Bedell commit the crime alone, but they won't release it. I would understand if Bedell was still alive and waiting to stand trial. However, it's been reported that he has died from his wounds.

It also seems unlikely to me that neither of these officers have life-threatening wounds, despite the fact that Bedell took them by surprise. At this time, I'd also like to bring up his "calm/cool" demeanour -- is it possible that he was not exactly "conscious" at the time, or thought that he was firing blanks?

And, with the previous speculation in mind, is it just a bizarre coincidence that Metro police were running a massive training exercise simulating a shooting at a Subway near the Pentagon not to long before the shooting? In light of the Hazmat drills near the IRS building, the security drills during the London Bombings, the military/federal/civilian drills during 9/11, the hurricane drill during Haiti, the SWAT drills during the SuccessTech shooting, and the probable bomb-squad drill during the OKC bombing, I think it's becoming harder and harder to believe that these drills are a mere coincidence. If anyone needs a push in the right direction, read the Deception 101 report, funded by the US Army War College:

Cover is the use of an apparently nonthreatening activity to
disguise preparation for or initiation of a hostile act. A common
example is the use of a training exercise to hide preparations for an
attack. If the training exercise was the last in a long series of training
exercises which had not led to actual hostile action in the past, this
could also be an example of conditioning―hence the tendency to refer
to “conditioning and cover.” The two concepts are linked by their
complementary definitions. In recent years, both the Yom Kippur
War of 1973 and the Falklands War of 1982 were launched under the
cover of training exercises similar to exercises which had occurred
before.

http://ftp.fas.org/irp/eprint/deception.pdf

After the shooting, I heard CBS telling it's viewers to report friends/family for anti-government activity/remarks. The cunningness and evil at work here is quite incredible.

 

[R.Mackey]

Apparently you guys can explain to me why someone who believed that the military was involved in the drug trade and killed witnesses to it's corruption would submit a project in to DARPA, the Pentagon's research wing, in 2004.

Happens more than you might expect. He also may simply have been more lucid in 2004.

Maybe you'd also like to tell me why the police/military initially reported that they were scrutinizing a second man, yet the story has disappeared and they have still not given any clue as to the man's identity and what made them worthy of scrutiny. Is this story going to fall into the same pit that "John Doe #2" and the Fort Hood Massacre accomplices did?

Probably a mistaken report. Also happens all the time. Did you try asking them? Of course not.

I'm also curious about why the police/government say that there is surveillance footage showing Bedell commit the crime alone, but they won't release it. I would understand if Bedell was still alive and waiting to stand trial. However, it's been reported that he has died from his wounds.

Why should they release it? Because some crank thinks it didn't happen? Fortunately, our government is not beholden to cranks.

It also seems unlikely to me that neither of these officers have life-threatening wounds, despite the fact that Bedell took them by surprise. At this time, I'd also like to bring up his "calm/cool" demeanour -- is it possible that he was not exactly "conscious" at the time, or thought that he was firing blanks?

Odds are he was just a lousy shot. Most folks are, even those who aren't insane.

And, with the previous speculation in mind, is it just a bizarre coincidence that Metro police were running a massive training exercise simulating a shooting at a Subway near the Pentagon not to long before the shooting? In light of the Hazmat drills near the IRS building, the security drills during the London Bombings, the military/federal/civilian drills during 9/11, the hurricane drill during Haiti, the SWAT drills during the SuccessTech shooting, and the probable bomb-squad drill during the OKC bombing, I think it's becoming harder and harder to believe that these drills are a mere coincidence. If anyone needs a push in the right direction, read the Deception 101 report, funded by the US Army War College:

Not bizarre then, not bizarre now. Emergency agencies train all the time. I never understood why nuts think they just sit around the stationhouse, waiting for Commissioner Gordon to call.

After the shooting, I heard CBS telling it's viewers to report friends/family for anti-government activity/remarks. The cunningness and evil at work here is quite incredible.

CBS is part of the conspiracy, obviously. Who can say how deep this rabbit-hole goes? [/lunatic]

 

[Architect]

The cunningness and evil at work here is quite incredible.

Those aren't the words I was thinking of.

 

[fallout]

yes. i am. 100% sure.

"Western state and commercial media claim that RT has close ties with the Russian state authorities[10][11][12][13][14] and a few years after the channel started broadcasting, for being a "cheerleader" of the Kremlin,[12] applying positive spin to reports about governmental institutions, refraining from criticizing Prime Minister and former Russian president Vladimir Putin or the government, and deliberately and incessantly engaging in US/NATO/EU-bashing through "interviews" in which only Russian ultra-nationalists or highly critical, anti-western "experts" are interviewed--without any probing questions or challenges by the RT reporters, and without even bothering to hear opposing points of view.[2] RT itself claims to be funded by the Russian government, and on-air presenters also confirm that the network is a "Government Agency".[15] [16] A CBC News story contains allegations that RT is "a continuation of the old Soviet propaganda services".[2] Western commercial media, including The New York Times, routinely call it "state-run".[17]"

The links didn't work, is it only me or anyone else?

 

[fallout]

Alex Jones on Geraldo today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-XjX00UHkk

There's his opinion about the shooting.

 

[bynmdsue]

I could be wrong, but I don't think they were referring to America when they said "this country" in "V for Vendetta".

yeah they were.tis an anti bush screed made by people too cowardly to set it in their own country.

 

[Drudgewire]

After the shooting, I heard CBS telling it's viewers to report friends/family for anti-government activity/remarks. The cunningness and evil at work here is quite incredible.

Wait a second, the same CBS that pays Charlie Sheen?? OMG HE'S A DISINFO AGENT!! DAMN YOU, RABBIT HOLE!!

 

[Lord Tsukasa]

Hi Ryan,

Happens more than you might expect. He also may simply have been more lucid in 2004.

Well, I don't think "lucid" is the right word, considering that the guns/drugs activities of the military are well-documented, as is the evidence that Colonel Shabaw was murdered.

However, to the point, your theory that his opinions towards the military were milder is impossible. If we acknowledge what his brother, Jeffrey, has told the police as truth, then Bedell had strong opinions towards the military/government since his teenage years.
http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/brother-describes-pentagon-gunmans-mental-struggles-326136.html

Probably a mistaken report. Also happens all the time. Did you try asking them? Of course not.

"The law enforcement department was investigating a second man, who may be an accomplice of Bedell."
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Pentagon-86442007.html

"Three law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation, said authorities were also scrutinizing a second man who may have accompanied the shooting suspect."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g2V4QkafgHPtiEjMDh8C2ZjRfZNwD9E876SO4

I don't think that there is any possibility that these reports were entirely mistaken. It is inconceivable that the police would tell the media that they were questioning/investigating someone in connection with Bedell and the shooting if they were not.

Why should they release it? Because some crank thinks it didn't happen? Fortunately, our government is not beholden to cranks.

Security footage of crimes are usually released to the press. There is no reason to conceal it when the suspect is dead.

Odds are he was just a lousy shot. Most folks are, even those who aren't insane.

Some circumstantial evidence suggests that Bedell had trained with the firearm prior to the shooting.
http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=98078

Not bizarre then, not bizarre now. Emergency agencies train all the time. I never understood why nuts think they just sit around the stationhouse, waiting for Commissioner Gordon to call.

Mere "drills" are not suspicious at all, but when those drills:
-Eerily resemble an event that coincides with them or occurs shortly after.
-Occur in a way that is convenient for a quick/efficient response (Hazmat in Austin)

..Then the words of Deception 101 haunt us.

CBS is part of the conspiracy, obviously. Who can say how deep this rabbit-hole goes? [/lunatic]

The Garrison Investigation, Operation Mockingbird, and many, many other things tell us that the mass media is a tool of those in power. CBS is owned by the CBS Corporation -- formerly Westinghouse, a US Defense Contractor.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Hi Ryan,



Well, I don't think "lucid" is the right word, considering that the guns/drugs activities of the military are well-documented, as is the evidence that Colonel Shabaw was murdered.

However, to the point, your theory that his opinions towards the military were milder is impossible. If we acknowledge what his brother, Jeffrey, has told the police as truth, then Bedell had strong opinions towards the military/government since his teenage years.
http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/brother-describes-pentagon-gunmans-mental-struggles-326136.html



"The law enforcement department was investigating a second man, who may be an accomplice of Bedell."
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Pentagon-86442007.html

"Three law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation, said authorities were also scrutinizing a second man who may have accompanied the shooting suspect."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g2V4QkafgHPtiEjMDh8C2ZjRfZNwD9E876SO4

I don't think that there is any possibility that these reports were entirely mistaken. It is inconceivable that the police would tell the media that they were questioning/investigating someone in connection with Bedell and the shooting if they were not.



Security footage of crimes are usually released to the press. There is no reason to conceal it when the suspect is dead.



Some circumstantial evidence suggests that Bedell had trained with the firearm prior to the shooting.
http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=98078



Mere "drills" are not suspicious at all, but when those drills:
-Eerily resemble an event that coincides with them or occurs shortly after.
-Occur in a way that is convenient for a quick/efficient response (Hazmat in Austin)

..Then the words of Deception 101 haunt us.



The Garrison Investigation, Operation Mockingbird, and many, many other things tell us that the mass media is a tool of those in power. CBS is owned by the CBS Corporation -- formerly Westinghouse, a US Defense Contractor.

Dude, you need to pace yourself. Don't let all the crazy out of the bag at once.