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Not another one?

I was getting some serious Sockpuppet vibes from our little friend. He was just a little too much, in style,attitude, and substance, like a couple of Conspiracy Kooks who got themselved banned here.
On the other hand, The Tin Foilers often do sound the same since they drink the same Kool Aid. My personal jury is still out.....
 
After OKC, most of us who were sypathetic to McViegh's positions found ourselves horrified and embarrassed, just as, I know, many of those against us were horrified and nervous. Both sides realized that it was partisanship and political posturing that lead to that tragedy, and in some small way ended up coming together just a bit.

At least until Bush got elected.

I don't really see that happening with the current CT generation. They are so conditioned to believe in false flags and inside jobs that I don't think they will own up to or be embarrassed by something like OKC. I think this is by design, as the current leaders of the CTers are same folks that lost so much influence in '95. What this means in practical terms is that while OKC pretty much ended the desire for homebrew revolution/terrorism, a modern equivelent will be written off as a trick, leaving it up to some other nutjob to fire the first shot of the revolution. And then he will be disavowed. And so on. And so on.

It's actually pretty frightening.
 
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I thought we were brewers! What am I gonna do with all this beer?
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Rogue1stclass said:
After OKC, most of us who were sypathetic to McViegh's positions found ourselves horrified and embarrassed, just as, I know, many of those against us were horrified and nervous. Both sides realized that it was partisanship and political posturing that lead to that tragedy, and in some small way ended up coming together just a bit.

At least until Bush got elected.

I don't really see that happening with the current CT generation. They are so conditioned to believe in false flags and inside jobs that I don't think they will own up to or be embarrassed by something like OKC. I think this is by design, as the current leaders of the CTers are same folks that lost so much influence in '95. What this means in practical terms is that while OKC pretty much ended the desire for homebrew revolution/terrorism, a modern equivelent will be written off as a trick, leaving it up to some other nutjob to fire the first shot of the revolution. And then he will be disavowed. And so on. And so on.

It's actually pretty frightening.
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rogue1stclass,

Thank you for your post. Your acknowledgment of being "sypathetic to McViegh's positions" is a useful bit of information to have for discussion. Let me quickly add that you are also clearly understood by me to have distinguished between sympathy to McVeigh's positions on one hand and abhorrence of the violent OKC act, on the other. I assure you I got that.

How has your positioning evolved from the mid-90s to the present? What is your viewpoint on American social cohesiveness in this post 9/11, post Iraq war crime, post financial collapse environment, to name some factors that differ now from the mid-90s, we presently have?

thanks
 
Dandyone said:
But you are coming from a position that is much like that of a trained monkey who has been manipulated from birth by professionals. Your "reality" was created for you by the minions of Eddie Bernays and his Madison Avenue PR Psyco-programmers.
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No, reality has been around for billions of years. Long before there were people.

That is obvious since you buy into every official explaination of ANYTHING no matter how absurd it may be to those of us who are unaffected by these techniques and can think rationally.
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How can you possibly know this?

Again read it right from the horses mouth. This guy's picture was on Goebels wall, and Rockefellers wall. He is the world master in mind control in the group sense. You have been trained like a dog. You are all pwned by this guy's brand of "science".
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No idea what you're talking about here.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society," Bernays argued. "Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. . . . In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons . . . who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."

Fortunately, I and others were blessed with the ability to see through this group think double talk BS at a very young age. It is almost unbelievable how many of you guys are still left out there who buy into every ridiculous peice of crap thown at you, as long as the guy selling it has some kind of connection to those who you see as powerful.
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Have you looked at the other forums on JREF? You clearly don't understand the purpose of this community and what we are about.

And better still your numbers are dwindling. The world is awakening all around you guys and you still just sit there and parrot the party line. Pretty pathetic.
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I really didn't consider you to be one of the mentally ill truthers when I made my post.

Now...I'm not so sure.
 
I still can't get over how hilarious it is that someone who believes that the laws of thermodynamics are a "flat earth hoax" is trying to mock sane people.
 
Dandyone said:
There are a lot more us than you realize. You live in this protected cocoon here at jref and think it's the real world. In the real world 75% believe that JFK was killed as the result of a conspiracy, over 50% believe that MLK & RFK were killed as a result of a conspiracy. 70% plus know that we were LIED into Viet Nam and Iraq. The Santa Barbara Independent ran a story about 911 truth a couple months ago and had a poll, 75% believed the official story was a bunch of BS. The public awareness regarding the federal reserve banking scam is growing exponentially. Your numbers are dwindling and it is plain to see all around. Ditto to JREF head.
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Whatever dude. I am likely twice your age, I have a real life, with a real job, a real family, and guess what...where I live, when you turn off the internet, 9/11 truth DIES!

Get use to it, as time moves on, your silly little movement will only fall further and further into nothingness. except, of course, for the occasional nut job who decides he is Neo.

TAM:)
 
dudalb said:
I was getting some serious Sockpuppet vibes from our little friend. He was just a little too much, in style,attitude, and substance, like a couple of Conspiracy Kooks who got themselved banned here.
On the other hand, The Tin Foilers often do sound the same since they drink the same Kool Aid. My personal jury is still out.....
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Yah his style definitely changed, reverted back to an all familiar one as he got more and more annoyed.

TAM:)
 
Yes. Another one. Because there are just so many.

Supposedly someone who had a beef with the official version on 9/11 tried to kill some security guards at the pentagon. Therefore according to debunkers anyone who has a problem with the official version regarding 9/11 must be dangerous.

tsk tsk. Man that's just pathetic. Do you debunkers ever wonder why you are still here trying to debunk after nine years? I mean with logic skills like that you're going to be here forever.
 
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Well, I think I will get out and let you guys get back to the real bussiness of this site.

Hey Jack, look up there's your team.
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I am deeply hurt and offended that you didn't include my "Ding dong the witch is dead" comment.
 
Profanz said:
Supposedly someone who had a beef with the official version on 9/11 tried to kill some security guards at the pentagon. Therefore according to debunkers anyone who has a problem with the official version regarding 9/11 must be dangerous.
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irrational, paranoid people...are indeed dangerous.
 
Profanz said:
Supposedly someone who had a beef with the official version on 9/11 tried to kill some security guards at the pentagon. Therefore according to debunkers anyone who has a problem with the official version regarding 9/11 must be dangerous.
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Not true. You have a problem with the official version yet I couldn't possibly take anyone more lightly.

ETA: That's not entirely true. You're running a distant 2nd to jammonius at the moment. My bad.
 
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irrational, paranoid people...are indeed dangerous.
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There are many people who believed in WMD's and were afraid of another 9/11 and a future mushroom cloud. And everything else the last administration asserted to be a slam dunk. This was the truth guaranteed. They bet their kids life on it and sent them off to come home in a box based on what they were told. For what? Yes. Irrational, paranoid people...are indeed dangerous. Especially when they don't learn after being burned so many times by the same people. But then again? Some of them get fed up.
 
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Not true. You have a problem with the official version yet I couldn't possibly take anyone more lightly.

ETA: That's not entirely true. You're running a distant 2nd to jammonius at the moment. My bad.
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Well that's good. For the record I don't find you or your little bird there particularly threatening either. What color is that? Butterscotch?
 
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Judging from the contents of his rant the shooter appears to have been a pretty thoroughgoing syndromist- or, as I sometimes put it, an exemplar of the "betcha can't swallow just one" phenomenon of conspiracism.

My problem with the modern 'net-based, commercialized form of conspiracism lies in its scapegoating nature. When an immersive subculture constantly whispers to its members "It's them. Their fault. They're the ones who are doing this to you", I don't think it astonishing that somewhere, one of the listeners will really take it to heart and act on it.
 
Anyone who believes that the truth movement is orchestrating shootings, and anyone who sends reports to Michelle Malkin, should seriously be shot on sight
 
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