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Noose ladies suspended from California school

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Principal and teachers are suspended from California elementary school after leaked photo showed them posing and grinning with a noose

Daily Mail said:
A California principal and four teachers have been placed on administrative leave after an image circulated showing them smiling as they posed with a noose.

Linda Brandt, the principal of Summerwind Elementary School in Palmdale, reportedly shared the photograph in an email to all teachers earlier this month.

It shows four educators – one believed by people close to the situation to have not had her first year contract renewed for a second year prior to the scandal breaking – dangling and pointing to the rope tied into a fashion to hang.

Alongside on of it hanging on a classroom wall, the pictures quickly spread to parents via Instagram.

'They had the audacity to show up today,' Shaka Phillipps, a former teacher, administrator, and educational consultant, told Yahoo Lifestyle as she protested them still having their jobs Thursday. 'The integrity of the school is completely compromised. To the black community, a noose is a weapon, a symbol of slavery and lynching.'

Her niece attends the school and she said she is 'now questioning the education every student of color has received in this class'...
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It seems like a hard charge to counter. I mean, about the only way to counter the argument that the teachers were biased would be to assert that they're too stupid to teach.

Having known a few teachers, I can sort of see the idea of a "back to school necklace" as a way of emphasizing how hard their life is, but if that were the gesture intended, anyone with a shred of perception would have put the noose on herself, not the wall.
 
Ok. What were they joking about with a noose: a hangman kind of thing, or lynching? Maybe a tasteless gag about suicide being the retirement plan in the district?

Seriously, I'd like to hear their story. As discussed on the Boeing thread, lynching is skmethkng that doesn't jump out as a noose connotation. Maybe it's a regional thing, I dunno.
 
Thermal said:
Ok. What were they joking about with a noose: a hangman kind of thing, or lynching? Maybe a tasteless gag about suicide being the retirement plan in the district?

Seriously, I'd like to hear their story. As discussed on the Boeing thread, lynching is skmethkng that doesn't jump out as a noose connotation. Maybe it's a regional thing, I dunno.
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I think you are clutching at straws to defend the indefensible. You would have to live in a cave not to get the symbolism of a noose in this age.
 
lionking said:
I think you are clutching at straws to defend the indefensible. You would have to live in a cave not to get the symbolism of a noose in this age.
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When its pointed out, sure. Then you realize how inappropriate it is. My first thought is suicide, followed by horror flicks and Westerns. As I said on the other thread, the first time I recall hearing about lynching was briefly in high school, and never discussed again that I recall. But the other connotations come up fairly frequently
 
I mean, after the Jussie Smollett thing, you'd think that all of Woke America (which certainly includes California schoolteachers) would know what a noose means.
 
Any noose is suicide right now. Job suicide and possibly more. If a noose appears then somebody has to be fired.

Suicide by noose.
 
Typical of Principals/Teachers to be months behind on the meme game.
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Just the most recent example I could think of depicting humour derived from the image of a noose and hanging which has nothing to do with race. Not saying that is necessarily the case here, just refuting the idea that noose = lynching = racism.
 
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what is the context for the pics? i remember a game we used to play in class at school (uk) with the teacher and amongst ourselves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangman_(game)

googling it there's loads of games as an aid to learning english

https://www.ego4u.com/en/chill-out/games/hangman

i dont know the context of that picture or the background of the people in it. but can only imagine how big an uproar there might be if my childhood game was played there
 
ginjawarrior said:
what is the context for the pics? i remember a game we used to play in class at school (uk) with the teacher and amongst ourselves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangman_(game)

googling it there's loads of games as an aid to learning english

https://www.ego4u.com/en/chill-out/games/hangman

i dont know the context of that picture or the background of the people in it. but can only imagine how big an uproar there might be if my childhood game was played there
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Making and displaying a noose is not in the same ballpark as hangman. It’s not on the same planet.
 
Growing up white in the midwest, I knew that lynching often involved hanging. But that's never been what comes to mind when I see a noose. Like Thermal, I associate it with horse thieves being hung in westerns or suicide. The association with racism is pretty recent for me.

The symbol that suggests lynching (or the threat of lynching to me) is a burning cross. (Which, in a different context is similar to the symbol of the Methodist church my family attended.)

That said, for the teachers would have to be pretty out of touch with current events to not know that it has a racial connotation even if that's not what they intended. And even then, to actually share the pictures with the whole faculty seems a bit off. I'm not a big fan of joking about suicide after one of my daughter's friends killed himself a couple years ago. (By hanging, actually.)
 
Thermal said:
Ok. What were they joking about with a noose: a hangman kind of thing, or lynching? Maybe a tasteless gag about suicide being the retirement plan in the district?

Seriously, I'd like to hear their story. As discussed on the Boeing thread, lynching is skmethkng that doesn't jump out as a noose connotation. Maybe it's a regional thing, I dunno.
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Note notice ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^fixed up nicely!!!!
 
I still contend that, whatever the purported meaning of a noose might be, it always implies death by hanging; if someone wants to imply that the noose is intended for herself, it would be on herself, not on the wall or in her hand. One has to assume that any other use of the noose by someone with enough intelligence to tie her own shoes in the morning is directed outward.
 
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