Mycroft
High Priest of Ed
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Originally posted by am7a
well we agree on one thing that we are here to educate ourselfs in exchange.
to be honest i don't know much about Dr.luther king, but i know mahatma ghandi story.
when comparing non-violent reaction to a bad situation in favour of a violent act i think its couragious and preudent. courage and prudence are vertues and the greatest vertue is patience. however prodence can only be reached in a state of justice.
in other words its great to forgive wrong doing and act patiently when you know that you have the power to change it, or you know that you can achieve your purpose by being patient.
I don’t think Gandhi or King were patient, and if they believed they were acting in a state of justice they would not have felt the need to act at all.
Also, I don’t think non-violence is about forgiving wrong. It’s about correcting wrong while trying not to do wrong yourself.
Originally posted by am7a
now when it comes to the palestinian and israelis do you think that if palestinians choose to be patient and demonstrate peacfuly against sharon visits to their holly mosque then sharon will generously stay away from it?
I don’t think any struggle has a guarantee of success; else it wouldn’t be a struggle. I do think that the chances of creating a positive result are at least as good as the violence that is the current strategy.
Agree or not with the sentiment, one could look at Sharons’ visit to the Al-Aqsa Mosque as itself a non-violent protest against the exclusively Arab nature of the holy site.
Originally posted by am7a
in a civilized society like america where presumebly justic is above everything, people demonstrated against the war in iraq, they chose a peaceful non-violent way to express thir openion because they know that they have the power of voting the next elections if bosh went against their will.
At the same time, the civil rights protests of previous decades were because those who wanted change did not have enough power to enact it. The protests were to draw attention and gain power through a change in public opinion.
Gandhi certainly didn’t have the political power to enact change through voting either.