Non-Homeopathic Belladonna

[Rodney]

Nobody has claimed that the lifestyle and weight management industry is more lucrative than other industries; merely that it is lucrative.

Where is the evidence that it is lucrative?

What you have posted here is the type of argument known as a strawman.

No, it's the type of argument known as trying to establish the facts.

 

[Slimething]

The issue at hand is whether there is "clear evidence" that Head On does not work. Is there?

No, you don't. Trying to redefine the issue midstream is not going to work on me, rodney. I am trying to convey unto you how to deal with these issues in a scientific manner. Do you or do you not have a DB test where wax has analgesic properties? Follow that thread and you will be able to tell whether or not HeadOn works. I've already told you that no one runs pharmacological studies on mixtures for efficacy.

Why do you think the lifestyle and weight management industry is a ticket to riches? It's just another industry, with limited barriers to entry.

Where did I write that, rodney? Are you running out of ideas already so you have to create strawmen?

Ah, but you just can't spare the time.

Believe me, rodney, if there were any merit to your claims, I would make the time. I love learning new things and, if you were right about cayce, research on his ideas would proceed at a fever pitch. They aren't. NOBODY CARES!! I'm only indulging you because you are so damned ignorant about science that you are like a vacuum in nature. People like you bother me.

Let me note that Cayce did not always recommend belladonna (or any other product) -- in some cases, he recommended against using it. And he did not say that belladonna or any other product must be obtained from a company in which he had a financial interest.

You are backtracking. Earlier, you claimed that cayce never made a dime on recommending pharmaceuticals. So, you are telling us that he was never paid for these services. Now, you also tell us that he recommended against using pharmaceuticals sometimes, meaning sometimes he did recommend them.

I'm not guessing; I've studied Cayce carefully and have never seen any evidence to indicate that he profited from his diet and exercise recommendations.

Since when does "as far as I can tell" mean the same as "I can absolutely establish that"? Yes, you are guessing. You are also again bobbing and weaving. First you tell us that cayce did not participate in lifestyle management, then you say he did but now you tell us that he did but did not make any money from it. Next, you'll be telling us that he was a breatharian so he didn't need money. Exactly when are you going to start being truthful with us or with yourself?

A wise choice because your source didn't know what (s)he was talking about.

Or that I care. When your life is built on bunk, others can make up bunk about it and no one will be the wiser.

How about Cayce's cure of Aime Dietrich?

We've been through that one, rodney. Got anything worth the time?

 

[Mojo]

What you have posted here is the type of argument known as a strawman.

No, it's the type of argument known as trying to establish the facts.

Why did you complain that nobody had provided evidence that "the lifestyle and weight management industry is more lucrative than other industries" when nobody had claimed this?

 

[Rodney]

Why did you complain that nobody had provided evidence that "the lifestyle and weight management industry is more lucrative than other industries" when nobody had claimed this?

In post #474 on this thread, Slimething claimed that "diet and lifestyle management is a HUGE business reaping colossal amounts of profits per year for the successful vendors." Because the average industry does not reap "colossal amounts of profits per year for the successful vendors", a logical inference of this statement is that the lifestyle and weight management industry is more lucrative than other industries.

 

[Mojo]

That isn't the claim being made there: no attempt was made to compare it to "other industries". And for your assertion to be a logical inference, even by your logic, you need to establish that "the average industry" does not reap "colossal profits". You haven't provided any evidence for your assertion.

 

[Slimething]

In post #474 on this thread, Slimething claimed that "diet and lifestyle management is a HUGE business reaping colossal amounts of profits per year for the successful vendors." Because the average industry does not reap "colossal amounts of profits per year for the successful vendors", a logical inference of this statement is that the lifestyle and weight management industry is more lucrative than other industries.

Rodney, in total honesty, I am floored by your lack of general knowledge and logical thinking. Also, your laziness. You don't appear to be willing to answer any questions put to you yet you whine incessantly that skeptics are not answering your questions. Here you have completely anihilated any suspcions I ever had that you had the intelligence, aptitude or ability to understand the knowledge that was being offered to you.

So, I have to do the work for you to prove that (1) the fitness industry attracts a considerable amount of money and (2) that there are industries that deal with lower amounts of money. Most people would consider this a trivial point, not really worth discussing, but you think it's some type of grand mystery that has anything to do with your hero being clairvoyant.

So, here goes. Find a general listing of the general value of industries here. They are arranged by NAICS codes (what the US government uses to abbreviate industries for organizational purposes). Now, all you need is find out the specific industries contained in each NAICS classification, right? Go here for that. Just in case, you're too lazy to do the legwork, the NAICS code you're looking for is 713940. Maybe you want me to read it to you as well?

Rodney, I have gotten a distinct feeling that you're here because no one else, ARE or otherwise, will give you the time of day. Why are you here? If you are here to learn or discuss with the possibility of reaching a mutual agreement, fine. If you are here to tell me that science has missed an opportunity that is being offered to it ad nauseam by people like yourself, go away. That would be just plain presumptive and ignorant and, if you are of that ilk, no one here can help you.

 

[Rodney]

That isn't the claim being made there: no attempt was made to compare it to "other industries". And for your assertion to be a logical inference, even by your logic, you need to establish that "the average industry" does not reap "colossal profits". You haven't provided any evidence for your assertion.

"Colossal" means gigantic or enormous; i.e., far above normal. So, by definition, "colossal profits" are far above normal and can't be made in the average industry.

 

[Rodney]

Rodney, in total honesty, I am floored by your lack of general knowledge and logical thinking. Also, your laziness. You don't appear to be willing to answer any questions put to you yet you whine incessantly that skeptics are not answering your questions. Here you have completely anihilated any suspcions I ever had that you had the intelligence, aptitude or ability to understand the knowledge that was being offered to you.

On the other hand, I do know how to spell "annihilated."

So, I have to do the work for you to prove that (1) the fitness industry attracts a considerable amount of money and (2) that there are industries that deal with lower amounts of money. Most people would consider this a trivial point, not really worth discussing, but you think it's some type of grand mystery that has anything to do with your hero being clairvoyant.

So, here goes. Find a general listing of the general value of industries here. They are arranged by NAICS codes (what the US government uses to abbreviate industries for organizational purposes). Now, all you need is find out the specific industries contained in each NAICS classification, right? Go here for that. Just in case, you're too lazy to do the legwork, the NAICS code you're looking for is 713940. Maybe you want me to read it to you as well?

You're confusing large revenues with large profits. An industry can be large, but not particularly profitable. In any event, you still haven't produced any evidence that Cayce made money by steering clients to particular products or companies.

Rodney, I have gotten a distinct feeling that you're here because no one else, ARE or otherwise, will give you the time of day. Why are you here? If you are here to learn or discuss with the possibility of reaching a mutual agreement, fine. If you are here to tell me that science has missed an opportunity that is being offered to it ad nauseam by people like yourself, go away. That would be just plain presumptive and ignorant and, if you are of that ilk, no one here can help you.

I'm here to exchange ideas -- no one has all the answers.

 

[Slimething]

On the other hand, I do know how to spell "annihilated."

Be proud of yourself that you can do something any grade schooler can do, rodney. Do you think you're worth my spell-checking? Take that as another bit of evidence of the high esteem in which I hold you.

You're confusing large revenues with large profits. An industry can be large, but not particularly profitable.

No one is confusing anything. There are also sites where you can get the average ROI for different industries. You find them. So, you can multiply the ROI by the monetary valuation to get profits yes? Do it and stop bothering me over stupidities. But you don't really have to do that to know it's a highly profitable industry. Now, how would you tell otherwise, rodney?

In any event, you still haven't produced any evidence that Cayce made money by steering clients to particular products or companies.

Where did I make that claim, genius speller?

I'm here to exchange ideas -- no one has all the answers.

Rodney, I'm wondering if you have ANY answers. You've arrived here spouting credulous wonderment at phenomena that have been explained without the need for clairvoyance. You've been asked many questions and have answered none of them. When challenged on your claims, you retreat and try to obfuscate the issues by posing assinine questions such as what the magnitude and profitability of the fitness industry in the US is. Unless you start answering questions and stop playing intellectual possum, I think you're going to find yourself very alone.

Now, do you have anything that would convey a systematic approach by cayce towards then-insoluble health problems? Answer this or go away.