Non-Denominational Denominational Poll

[evildave]

As another silly attempt to prove nothing in particular, let's see if we can break down some genericised points for a poll.

Check each box that applies.

Explanations/longer versions:
1. Do you believe there are any gods?
2. Do you believe that gods have any direct influence on your life, or those of others?
3. Do you think the universe came into being 'for a reason' or because someone/something with intelligence made it?
4. Do you believe that whether the universe 'just happened like that' or whether it was made is important to you?
5. Do you believe life was engineered/made, instead of a natural/evolutionary process?
6. Do you believe that life is in its self important?
7. Do you believe that there is continued existance for you, some people, everyone, etc. after death?
8. Do you believe this afterlife has some importance relevant to this life?
9. Do you believe you can't possibly be mistaken in any of these beliefs?
10. Are you a member of an organization (with other followers) based on some of these beliefs (or lack of beliefs)?

 

[evildave]

Personally, I'm an apathetic agnostic, so honestly I don't believe in any of the above, but belong to an organization which doesn't believe in anything, either.

 

[scribble]

Personally, I'm an apathetic agnostic, so honestly I don't believe in any of the above, but belong to an organization which doesn't believe in anything, either.

Being the second voter put me in the unique position to know that someone voted for "I belong toa church..." without haveing checked ANY of the above. I wondered what kind of a freak that might be and planned on writing something clever.

Thanks for saving me the pain of trying to be clever. Freak.

 

[Abdul Alhazred]

Being the second voter put me in the unique position to know that someone voted for "I belong toa church..." without haveing checked ANY of the above. I wondered what kind of a freak that might be and planned on writing something clever.

Thanks for saving me the pain of trying to be clever. Freak.

Never mind the theological stuff, what church doesn't think life is important?

 

[epepke]

As another silly attempt to prove nothing in particular, let's see if we can break down some genericised points for a poll.

Check each box that applies.

Explanations/longer versions:
1. Do you believe there are any gods?

I'm the only one, unless you count Frank Zappa, but he's dead.

2. Do you believe that gods have any direct influence on your life, or those of others?

Well, duh!

3. Do you think the universe came into being 'for a reason' or because someone/something with intelligence made it?

Neither. It was made by someone who is obviously pretty damn stupid.

4. Do you believe that whether the universe 'just happened like that' or whether it was made is important to you?

Only on Tuesdays.

5. Do you believe life was engineered/made, instead of a natural/evolutionary process?

I'd fire the engineer.

6. Do you believe that life is in its self important?

It's what we got.

7. Do you believe that there is continued existance for you, some people, everyone, etc. after death?

Zaphod Beeblebrox: Come on, Marvin, you've got a whole new life in front of you!
Marvin: Oh, no! Not another one!

8. Do you believe this afterlife has some importance relevant to this life?

It keeps John Edwards off the streets.

9. Do you believe you can't possibly be mistaken in any of these beliefs?

I am absolutely certain of the fact that any of my beliefs may be mistaken.

10. Are you a member of an organization (with other followers) based on some of these beliefs (or lack of beliefs)?

Come on! I have a hard enough time finding groupies.

 

[BroodingSkill]

Since I can't vote I'll post it:

the origin of the universe is important( somewhat, but what does it have to do with the price of cheese)

Life is important!

that's about it.

 

[Marvel Frozen]

I feel cheated, it won't let me vote without selecting at least one option.

 

[evildave]

Originally posted by scribble

Being the second voter put me in the unique position to know that someone voted for "I belong toa church..." without haveing checked ANY of the above. I wondered what kind of a freak that might be and planned on writing something clever.

Thanks for saving me the pain of trying to be clever. Freak.

You're welcome!

I am a reverend of the Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic. I don't know, and I don't care. Words to live by. You can be one, too.

Why life has no value....

Life is the only important thing there is that I know of.

Is life so important that it couldn't be exterminated? (snaps fingers) Just like that? OK, it would take a certain amount of time to eradicate all the life on Earth, even if the planet were blown into pieces, and maybe some bacteria might survive even that, but as it stands now, humans probably won't.

Life is important to that which lives, but try to explain it to a hunk of iron that's been orbiting the sun for a billion years that just happens to intersect the Earth's orbit one day. Then try to explain it to someone who thinks there are more important priorities than space research.

How do you place value on life? Add value to it? Spreading it to more habitats so that it can grow there would be one way. There is lots of room and lots of resources in space. The moon alone has as much surface area as North and South America combined.

We have the scientific basis and technology to do it. We just don't. Therefore, as measured by our apathy toward ultimate survival, the human race does not value life, and me being a member of the human race, am not valued by it, either.

I value my own life, but no amount of my valuing my own life will make it more valuable than what's in my wallet to some junky with a gun. It's worth even less to another whole class of morons on a "mission from god" to "kill all the heretics".

 

[Wudang]

Me also, evildave. And the proud holder of a Masters in Agnostic Studies. I now slightly regret not getting the Masters in Ignorance as I could tell people I was going to write them up for my Doctorate.

 

[triadboy]

I selected "Life is Important", because if it isn't important, then why am I in this cube?

 

[roger]

I don't understand this poll, I can't vote for any of the options.

It's like a poll that asks whether i have cedar or asphalt shingles, and I actually have palm fronds on my roof.

 

[evildave]

Well, bugger all. You know it would take a series of ten polls to have questions that anybody could ask.

If it doesn't apply, leave 'em blank. If none of them apply, complain and we know there's another person who couldn't click anything. Needed an 11th 'planet X' option. Or you could go join the Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic and you can click 'I belong to a church/organization...' that doesn't believe in any of that junk.

There is one or more god(s). 3 4.62%
God(s) is/are important. 5 7.69%
The universe was deliberate. 3 4.62%
The origin of the universe is important. 10 15.38%
Life was deliberate. 3 4.62%
Life is important. 20 30.77%
Afterlife/reincarnation happens. 4 6.15%
Afterlife/reincarnation is important. 5 7.69%
I am certainly right. 6 9.23%
I belong to a church/organization based on above beliefs. 6 9.23%
Total: 24 votes 100%

All in all, the percentages on the right column are useless. I think they tally up all the votes and show what percentage of all votes were that one.

The 'bottom line' would be votes of a given category over 24 votes (at this moment).

I'm interested in how many people believe the ultimate origin of the universe is important. 11/27 (Including BroodingSkill, Marvel, Roger). That seems like a very academic question to me. You never know what you'll discover in the search for the answer, but you never know what you'll find if you start digging a hole at some arbitary location.

Predictably 21/27 people (Including BroodingSkill, Marvel, Roger) have posted that life is important. It would be 22/27, but the ultimate reason why I didn't check it was I forgot to, and the thing won't let you change any votes once they're cast. Oh well.

In the absense of any evidence for certain things (or perhaps they have compelling evidence), 1/3 of the people are certain that their assumptions are right. There are/aren't gods, the universe was/wasn't designed, and life was/wasn't designed, and there is/isn't an afterlife, with relative importances attached. That's already 1/16 chance that four binary conclusions are right. 1/256 if we count the 'importance' stuff. While there is compelling evidence that life evolved, it's not quite conclusive enough to stop people from believing a god or aliens or some such thing showed up one day and pointed the life-o-matic at some clay, and "bingo" there's animals and people and stuff. Then again, even with a time machine and a video camera to give us absolute proof, you couldn't convince most of these people of anything as prosaic as "sh!t just happens".

 

[Yahweh]

I am a god, under favorable conditions I am important.

 

[Kopji]

I am a little curious why only three people felt there was a god but five felt a god was important.

 

[rebecca]

I am a little curious why only three people felt there was a god but five felt a god was important

You can be unsure of whether or not something exists and still think it's important to find out about it. For instance, I don't believe in life, but it's pretty much all I've got anyway, so darn it, I clicked "important."

Ooh, my first post, and it's almost completely nonsensical! Hello, all.

 

[scribble]

I am a little curious why only three people felt there was a god but five felt a god was important.

I don't think there's a God - but if there is, it's sure important. And personally, I'd sure like there to be one. So it's important.

I also didn't click "I'm definately right." So ... maybe I'm wrong about that.

 

[Yahweh]

Welcome to the board, rebecca

 

[Yahweh]

I also didn't click "I'm definately right." So ... maybe I'm wrong about that.

I also did not click "I'm definately right". I think such a belief is rendered meaningless when the atheist believes he is undeniably correct and the Christian holds the same sentiments of his own beliefs. Who knows, maybe they are both wrong...

 

[evildave]

Yes, for instance, there could be a 'god', but it doesn't remotely match anyone's expectations for what it is.

Would I be right. believing in the Christian 'god's? No.

Would I be right. believing in the Islamic 'god'? No.

Would I be right. believing in the Hindu 'god's? No.

Would I be right. believing in 'god-like aliens'? No.

Would I be right, believing in "NO" god? No.

"I don't know, and I don't care", it works for me.

Not for you? I don't care. Go believe any old thing you like. Whatever makes you happy. Just don't insist that I have to believe what you do.

 

[Abdul Alhazred]

Yes, for instance, there could be a 'god', but it doesn't remotely match anyone's expectations for what it is.

Would I be right. believing in the Christian 'god's? No.

Would I be right. believing in the Islamic 'god'? No.

Would I be right. believing in the Hindu 'god's? No.

Would I be right. believing in 'god-like aliens'? No.

Would I be right, believing in "NO" god? No.

"I don't know, and I don't care", it works for me.

Not for you? I don't care. Go believe any old thing you like. Whatever makes you happy. Just don't insist that I have to believe what you do.

OK, no chosen people, no one died for my sins, no angel whispered into any prophet's ear.

But did a uniquely self-existent being will the universe into existence? I say no, but I admit I have no evidence. Does anyone on the other side have any evidence? Again I say no.

And I take the position that the burden of proof is not on my position.