Noah's Ark Being Rebuilt

[Ipecac]

Odd that this should come up. I just drove by this thing for the first time the other day. It's pretty silly, especially since it's unlikely to ever be finished. Guess god isn't that interested in it.

 

[Marc L]

I'm also wondering where cement and steel are mentioned in the Biblical specs.

From the website:

God told Pastor Greene to build his congregation’s new church as a replica of Noah’s Ark.

(emphasis mine) It's not a rebuilding, it's a replica. It doesn't have to be of the same materials any more than a model airplane needs to run on jet fuel.

Marc

 

[Beerina]

With all due respect, your complaints about their slowness are falling on deaf ears. IIRC, it took Noah over a hundred years to finish the ark.

So if they started in '76, they've got a good 70 years to go before even suggesting they're being slow about it.

 

[Garrette]

Rebuilt?

Okay. You caught me.

I have a strange urge to procure the adjacent lot and build me a Tower of Babel.

You're too late. There are forums that qualify.

As to dimensions, I think the keel is longer than a clipper ship's.

IIRC, Nelson's Victory is not as long as this ark.

You could probably fit two or three Victory's in it, but that doesn't change my point. 350 feet long is big but not the biggest and no longer impressive.

Unless you open it up and find dinosaurs.

It is supposed to demonstrate God's love for mankind.

Well, maybe his love for people driving on I-68.

Hey guys. First post and I'm making it to the Religion and Philosophy forum. I must be crazy.

We don't need your kind here.

Anyway, I used to live down there and I've passed the "Ark" many a time. It really is just a skeleton of a ship right now. Kind of sad really.

Have faith and give them money.

Their own drawings show that a giraffe can't fit through the door.


Myth busted...

Dude, if yhwh can fit dinosaurs on there he can certainly fold up a measly giraffe small enough to fit on the shelf over the captain's bunk.

Odd that this should come up. I just drove by this thing for the first time the other day. It's pretty silly, especially since it's unlikely to ever be finished. Guess god isn't that interested in it.

You guys are gonna be sorry when I am allowed to board on the day of the rains.

It's not a rebuilding, it's a replica. It doesn't have to be of the same materials any more than a model airplane needs to run on jet fuel.

You may or may not be using an accurate definition of "replica", but context shows that the pastor does not intend it that way. He envisions thousands of people from across the globe coming to visit the sign of god's love. A plastic mock-up with stinky glue won't accomplish that.

 

[Marc L]

You may or may not be using an accurate definition of "replica",

From dictionary.com

A copy or reproduction, especially one on a scale smaller than the original.

but context shows that the pastor does not intend it that way. He envisions thousands of people from across the globe coming to visit the sign of god's love. A plastic mock-up with stinky glue won't accomplish that.

Granted. I'm not reading the context as you are, either. I see him as having said that this will be a church, not an actual boat. If this is true, then it makes sense that there will be concrete involved.

Marc

 

[firecoins]

I know it's claimed to have been rebuilt elsewhere, but I drive past this particular Noah's Ark rebuilding at least a few times a year for the past several years.

The website says construction began in 1976, but I have seen no progress on it beyond what is shown in the photo on the web. This despite the website claims that god has been providing all the building material required.

I'm also wondering where cement and steel are mentioned in the Biblical specs.

Finally, they mention the dimensions (450' x 75' x 45') as if it's enormous. I wonder how many container ships or naval vessels they've seen.

Which leads to my pointless questions: Do people such as this honestly convince themselves that they are doing something of value? Or that they are doing something that demonstrates biblical truth?

If so, how can they maintain the facade in the face of simple facts like gopher wood does not equal concrete and cement?

Website here: http://www.godsark.org/

Why is God rebuilding it? Did he get a no bid contract and what is his relation to the Carlyle Group, James Baker and George W. Bush?

 

[Garrette]

From dictionary.com

I really wasn't questioning your use; it's just that since I didn't consider it relevant to the point I didn't bother to look it up.

Granted. I'm not reading the context as you are, either. I see him as having said that this will be a church, not an actual boat. If this is true, then it makes sense that there will be concrete involved.

Okay, I can see that.

Re-looking at the site, I think he's illogically mixing the two. The purpose is the church; the media is the ark. If he thinks an ark-looking building will impress people the world over, he's bonkers.

ETA: When you drive by the site, you see a big sign that says (from memory):

Noah's Ark Being Rebuilt Here!

Nothing about a church. Hence my bias that that's what he's doing.

 

[snooziums]

I didn't know that Noah was a big hoops fan. I think a half court would have been big enough for a game of 2 on 2 or even a coed game of 4 on 4.

And elevators. After all, those animals tend to be kind of lazy.

Makes be want to re-build Babylon, just to tick those Christians off. Yes, nothing like a huge "heathen" replica t add to the landscape.

It would probably look nicer anyways.

 

[Garrette]

And elevators. After all, those animals tend to be kind of lazy.

Makes be want to re-build Babylon, just to tick those Christians off. Yes, nothing like a huge "heathen" replica t add to the landscape.

It would probably look nicer anyways.

Already being done. In Babylon.

It's a shame, too, because Saddam did it to glorify himself and to get tourists, not to preserve anything. Much of the old city has been built over with gleaming new (in the old style) walls.

Still, much of the old ruins are there.

I don't know if there are pics on the net, but I have several at home, some digital and some not, including one of me standing near the famous lion of Babylon statue.

 

[Ashles]

Steel reinforcement rod was needed and God spoke to a man to donate it.

I can honestly say I never expected to read that sentence in my lifetime.

 

[Ashles]

Here's a quiz boys and girls. Can anyone spot the problem with this little scenario?

 

[Garrette]

Here's a quiz boys and girls. Can anyone spot the problem with this little scenario?

http://www.godsark.org/html/Slide011.jpg

Those trees aren't indigenous to the Middle East?

 

[snooziums]

Here's a quiz boys and girls. Can anyone spot the problem with this little scenario?

How many boats have glass doors in the lower parts of their hull? Will provide nice scenery for a while, until the glass breaks under pressure.

Also, the hull is seen as round or curved, yet the doors are square-ish. Am optical illusion, or a poorly designed hull that will create all kinds of water resistance.

 

[Garrette]

I'm not sure the doors are glass as opposed to just gray.

Regardless, it's rather nice that Noah thought to build the patio and deck replete with wood for the barbecue. It will make the celebration upon beaching on Ararat that much more comfy and rustic.

ETA: Actually, I want to know why the grass is cut off so sharply, what the area is that's bordering it, and what the giraffes' walkway is made of.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

More importantly, look at all those bales of coke! That's enough for a 40 day party.

Kids! Don't Do Drugs!

 

[CFLarsen]

Emma Mærsk is currently the largest container ship ever built.

You do the math. Not a chance that two of each species can fit on one of those babies...

According to their site, they only build when they get a donation, i.e. they are not borrowing money. If you look at their construction pictures, they have only a tiny fraction completed. It could be a loooooong time. The architectural sketch is very impressive though.

Yeah, but...if they are waiting for a flood, isn't it kinda risky to wait for donations?

 

[H3LL]

I have a strange urge to procure the adjacent lot and build me a Tower of Babel.

Populate it with "Evil Ducks".*





*Eddie Izzard Reference.

 

[Ladewig]

And elevators. After all, those animals tend to be kind of lazy.

Makes me want to re-build Babylon, just to tick those Christians off.

What a great idea for a Las Vegas themed casino.

 

[Earthborn]

Emma Mærsk is currently the largest container ship ever built.

You do the math. Not a chance that two of each species can fit on one of those babies...

Can it hold two of each of 8 000 kinds?

 

[AWPrime]

And of course, there's this loony in the Netherlands building one with more authentic materials. However, the thing will be one third the size and unable to float, so it's going to be towed on a barge and function as a silly bible theme park.

It's mostly in Dutch, but it has some nice pictures and an English movie.

Yes we still have some fundies here, but we are planning on shipping the remaining ones to the US, like we did in the past.