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Noah's Ark a Reality

g4macdad said:
A jrefer calling people zealots? Wow! Do you ever enter reality?
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One thing that the internet has enabled is a lot more dialogue between people of different convictions. I'm not talking about academics, scientists and theological scholars, I'm talking about lay people. It's interesting to see people like this gain experience 'debating' with others on the net. They pick up lingo like, "Do you ever enter reality?" but, of course, wind up missing the point entirely.

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Foster Zygote said:
As one who lives about twenty minutes drive from Bob Jones University I see nothing inaccurate about Mark's comment. It may have been a bit tongue-in-cheek but the truth of the matter is that the southern US is home to a higher percentage of Biblical literalists/fundamentalists than the rest of the US. What in Mark's comments could possibly warrant moderator action?
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further proof that the south is a little "Special":
http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/
The Creation museum in kentucky (only 1 hour from my house).
 
joobz said:
Definitely! I've had a perverse desire to go ever since I heard about it.
Although, I think we need to do a Distillery tour first.
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Waitwaitwait. If we come and visit, we get a distillery tour AND a creationist museum? All in one day? If you tell me there's good 'q to be had, I'll be down next weekend. :D
 
Just one point about this ark, it also doesn't float, it been built on a barge or something,
However I think i liked the vending machines on board.... i can hear it now,

Hey Ham, get us a ham sandwich, oh and some m&m's for the lions...got change of a shekel?
 
kmortis said:
Waitwaitwait. If we come and visit, we get a distillery tour AND a creationist museum? All in one day? If you tell me there's good 'q to be had, I'll be down next weekend. :D
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That'd be fun to get a group of JREFers on a distillery/creationism tour. For some reason this idea makes me hear the Deadmilk Men's "Taking retards to the zoo" in my head.:boggled:

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BTW: What's 'q? I apologize for my poor lingo knowledge.
 
joobz said:
That'd be fun to get a group of JREFers on a distillery/creationism tour. For some reason this idea makes me hear the Deadmilk Men's "Taking retards to the zoo" in my head.:boggled:

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BTW: What's 'q? I apologize for my poor lingo knowledge.
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It's a friday night and I got nothin' to do...

'q=bbq. Bar-b-que. The fine art of making base meats into culinary gold.
 
joobz said:
Definitely! I've had a perverse desire to go ever since I heard about it.
Although, I think we need to do a Distillery tour first.
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Kentucky may be the land of the Creation Museum, but it's also the land of bourbon. Go figure.:D Have you done any more research into the qualities of fine bourbon since you got there?
 
joobz said:
That'd be fun to get a group of JREFers on a distillery/creationism tour. For some reason this idea makes me hear the Deadmilk Men's "Taking retards to the zoo" in my head.:boggled:

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BTW: What's 'q? I apologize for my poor lingo knowledge.
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Wiggum: You OK to drive this thing?

Barney: Sure thing Giant Beer!
 
Jeff Wagg said:
Well, this is north of the Mason/Dixon line but not much:

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/sights/sightstory.php?tip_AttrId==10061
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Dude. That's in Maryland. That puts it south of the Mason-Dixon.

Anyway, I lived in Cumberland for some years. That's just down the road from the monstrosity.

When I got there, it was the beams. When I left, it was the beams. If I go visit my parents tomorrow, it'll still be just the beams.

That and a really big billboard on Rt-68.
 
kmortis said:
It's a friday night and I got nothin' to do...

'q=bbq. Bar-b-que. The fine art of making base meats into culinary gold.
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Oh, silly me. :o

Actually, in truth, I haven't found any good 'q yet. We moved here (lexington) in july and still haven't had really good bbq.

Foster Zygote said:
Kentucky may be the land of the Creation Museum, but it's also the land of bourbon. Go figure.:D Have you done any more research into the qualities of fine bourbon since you got there?
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Yup. I've taken a shine to woodford reserve. vanilla and spice notes and very smooth. And the bonus is the distillery is only a half hour from here.
 
kmortis said:
Waitwaitwait. If we come and visit, we get a distillery tour AND a creationist museum? All in one day? If you tell me there's good 'q to be had, I'll be down next weekend. :D
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What could go wrong with a group of intelligent skeptics, likkered up and full of bbq, touring a creationist museum? Sounds like a mini-TAM to me....
 
Just a serious note: The scale is crucial (quite apart from it being build on a steel barge). Large constructions mostly cannot be scaled, especially not ships. A simple explanation: If you double the size of a ship, you increase the displacement with a factor of 8. Thus, the double-sized ship must be 8 times stronger. Of course, if you make it 5 times larger, the displacement becomes 125 times larger ...... do your own math.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
Just a serious note: The scale is crucial (quite apart from it being build on a steel barge). Large constructions mostly cannot be scaled, especially not ships. A simple explanation: If you double the size of a ship, you increase the displacement with a factor of 8. Thus, the double-sized ship must be 8 times stronger. Of course, if you make it 5 times larger, the displacement becomes 125 times larger ...... do your own math.

Hans
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Hans... it doesn't matter... the guy didn't build a boat.. he built a prop... just go to the link I posted and look at the building of... the outside "hull" is just planks of wood, nailed over 2x4s and insulation. Even if this thing had a bottom (which it doesn't), it would sink like a stone.

It's like going to the zoo and thinking you're in the jungle. The stone is made with concrete... the vines are plastic.
 
DangerousBeliefs said:
Hans... it doesn't matter... the guy didn't build a boat.. he built a prop... just go to the link I posted and look at the building of... the outside "hull" is just planks of wood, nailed over 2x4s and insulation. Even if this thing had a bottom (which it doesn't), it would sink like a stone.

It's like going to the zoo and thinking you're in the jungle. The stone is made with concrete... the vines are plastic.
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Yes, I noticed as much. Funny, but even the present contraption (buildt on a steel barge) wouldn't be seaworthy if built scaled X5.

BTW, do you know why Noah's Ark is usually depicted in the way quite well represented by this prop?

Because the Bible describes it like that? No, not really. The biblical description is quite vague. However, we have a picture of it!

... Or rather, we have a picture that has not only inspired later artists, but may very well have inspired whoever wrote the biblical legend: Queen Hatshepsut's big obelisk barge. Modern estimates have it as being about 90 meters long and 30 meters wide, and presumably, it transported two obelisks, placed side by side. However, ancient Egyptian artists did not depict things in perspective, so in the relief of the barge, it is shown with the obelisks laid end to end. So we have an image of what looks like a 180 meter ship, contemporary, not with Noah, but with the people who put the legend to paper (or, presumably, papyrus).

Of course, even this 90 meter ship was only for river transportation, carefully guided by oars and ropes from the shore. ..Which is a far cry from sailing in a planet-wide ocean.

Hans
 
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