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bofors said:
With the exception of Japanese, nobody else is known for suicide missions.

Duh.... stundie.... whatever.... :confused:
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It's been well documented that the Germans ran suicide/Odds against you surviving missions during WWII. Go read a history book.
 
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chillzero said:
So... help me out here...

The planes were not piloted by Muslims.. because apparently only Japan has suicide bombers.
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uh huh

... except that the Middle East has suicide bombers on the news regularly also....
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You believe the news?

... but they are Muslim....
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or mossad....

...so they could not have been flying the plane(s) ...
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uh huh

... because only Japan is noted for suicide bombing?
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Welllll, if we could somehow prove that the japanese pilots didn't actually intend to commit suicide but were actually duped into doing so by faulty equipment which could then be sourced back to an american owned company.......

Is that it?
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Oh I'm sure there's more.
:D
 
chillzero said:
So... help me out here...

The planes were not piloted by Muslims.. because apparently only Japan has suicide bombers.

... except that the Middle East has suicide bombers on the news regularly also....

... but they are Muslim....

...so they could not have been flying the plane(s) ...

... because only Japan is noted for suicide bombing?

Is that it?
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Isn't twoofer logic fascinating? I suppose bofors next post will be something like "...but when have Muslims ever used airplains as suicide weapons before 9/11? That's right. Never. What are the odds of it happening 4 times in a day...LOLZ. Sheaple."
 
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bofors said:
With the exception of Japanese, nobody else is known for suicide missions.

Duh.... stundie.... whatever.... :confused:
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That's incorrect. The greatest number of suicide bombing missions have been carried out by a group which is neither Japanese nor Islamic.
 
bofors said:
That's right, and those people would be Muslim wouldn't they?
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Yeah, I think so.

Unless the Japanese are now suicide-bombing Iraq dressed up as Muslims.
 
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CptColumbo said:
How does one make the leap from the planes not being flown by Muslims to them therefore being piloted by remote control? Did he take a particularly poorly worded multiple choice quiz and is trying to dispute his grade?
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Actually, the modern use of suicide bombing (with human delivery systems, so to speak) was pioneered by the Tamil Tigers movement in Sri Lanka. Which is not Muslim, I believe.
 
bofors said:
With the exception of Japanese, nobody else is known for suicide missions.

Duh.... stundie.... whatever.... :confused:
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prior to WW2 the japanese were not known for suicide attacks, therefore all kamikazis and kaitens must have been remote controlled
 
chillzero said:
So... help me out here...

The planes were not piloted by Muslims.. because apparently only Japan has suicide bombers.

... except that the Middle East has suicide bombers on the news regularly also....

... but they are Muslim....

...so they could not have been flying the plane(s) ...

... because only Japan is noted for suicide bombing?

Is that it?
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Well, if we're talking specifically about aircraft suicide bombings/attempts/plots, there are Richard Reid, Lya Jamal, Aminat Nagayeva, Satsia Dzhebirkhanova, and the London airline suicide bomb plotters.

And if we're talking about using or plotting to use a plane as the suicide/murder weapon, in addition to the 9/11 hijackers there are Samuel Byck, Nikola Kavaja, Auburn Calloway, Gameel Al-Batouti, and possibly the hijackers of Air France Flight 8969.
 
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chillzero said:
So... help me out here...

The planes were not piloted by Muslims.. because apparently only Japan has suicide bombers.

... except that the Middle East has suicide bombers on the news regularly also....

... but they are Muslim....

...so they could not have been flying the plane(s) ...

... because only Japan is noted for suicide bombing?

Is that it?
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I think I have it!

JAPAN = Suicide Pilots.

JAPAN = Pearl Habor

9/11 = New Pearl Harbor

New Pearl Harbor = Suicide pilots

Suicide Pilots = JAPAN


Jaopan therefore obviously carried out 9/11 as the "new Pearl Harbor."

QED.
 
chillzero said:
So... help me out here...

The planes were not piloted by Muslims.. because apparently only Japan has suicide bombers.

... except that the Middle East has suicide bombers on the news regularly also....

... but they are Muslim....

...so they could not have been flying the plane(s) ...

... because only Japan is noted for suicide bombing?

Is that it?
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That seems to be it. Congratualtions! It looks like the education system hasn't failed you. :clap: :D
 
Gravy said:
Well, if we're talking specifically about aircraft suicide bombings/attempts/plots, there are Richard Reid, Lya Jamal, Aminat Nagayeva, Satsia Dzhebirkhanova, and the London airline suicide bomb plotters.

And if we're talking about using or plotting to use a plane as the suicide/murder weapon, in addition to the 9/11 hijackers there are Samuel Byck, Nikola Kavaja, Auburn Calloway, Gameel Al-Batouti, and possibly the hijackers of Air France Flight 8969.
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Let's not forget self-immolating Tibetan monks.
 
Gravy said:
Well, if we're talking specifically about aircraft suicide bombings/attempts/plots, there are Richard Reid, Lya Jamal, Aminat Nagayeva, Satsia Dzhebirkhanova, and the London airline suicide bomb plotters.

And if we're talking about using or plotting to use a plane as the suicide/murder weapon, in addition to the 9/11 hijackers there are Samuel Byck, Nikola Kavaja, Auburn Calloway, Gameel Al-Batouti, and possibly the hijackers of Air France Flight 8969.
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Add to that list
Eric Johnson who aimed his rented plane into his mother in laws house.
Osama bin Laden ssympathizer Charles Bishop who took aim at a 42 story bank Of America building in Florida
David Burke who was fired from pacific air and took his revenge by shooting his supervisor and the pilot and steering the plane into the ground.
 
bofors said:
With the exception of Japanese, nobody else is known for suicide missions.

Duh.... stundie.... whatever.... :confused:
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Everyone, that's what's called a "Non Sequitur". Especially when you consider the fact that no one was saying that Muslims or anyone outside of Japanese pilots could not conduct suicide missions.

Come to think of it, the statement is a straw man as well: The statement was one of incredulity at the obvious leap of logic from "not by Muslims" to "remote control", which is every bit the non sequitur that the above quote it is. It wasn't an attempt to narrow who's capable of suicide missions.

Why this has to be explained, I don't know. I don't have much beyond elementary logic training and even I see the fallacies committed in those statements... anyone with even an undergraduate degree should be able to as well.
 
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uk_dave said:
I think you're giving them way too much credit there.
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It's easy to assume that these people are completely irrational because you look at the conspiracy theories head-on. You have to remember that the CT is reverse-engineered, and therefore you have to look at the theories backwards in order to understand why particular bits of "evidence" are cited.

Look at Bofors' comment in #8, which baffled everybody who read it.

With the exception of Japanese, nobody else is known for suicide missions.
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In fact, what Bofors said makes perfect sense from the CT mindset. The problem that the 9-11 CT has always had and will always have is that they cannot convince people that the American pilots intentionally crashed their planes. This necessitates large parts of the conspiracy theories:

1. That Flight 11 and Flight 175 did not hit the WTC.
2. That Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon.
3. That Flight 93 was shot down (or landed in Cleveland).
4. That the cellphone/Airfone calls were faked.

Say that any of those are wrong, and MIHOP is extremely endangered. But you can say that all of them were wrong and still keep MIHOP; you just have to go to the "hijackers are patsies and the planes were remote controlled".

Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying they're skilled chess players by any means. But everything they do will come as a surprise until you start thinking backwards.
 
Brainster said:
It's easy to assume that these people are completely irrational because you look at the conspiracy theories head-on. You have to remember that the CT is reverse-engineered, and therefore you have to look at the theories backwards in order to understand why particular bits of "evidence" are cited.
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Good point - that seems to me to be a classic property of CTs, and to stem from them being an attempt to formulate an alternative explanation of events that have already happened. Therefore, the 9-11 CTs focus on alternative explanations for the collapse of the Twin Towers without ever examining the question of why that collapse was so necessary to the plan that an extraordinary risk of detection had to be taken to ensure it. Therefore, too, the Pearl Harbor theories focus on why Roosevelt took steps to make sure the attack would take the defenders by surprise, without ever conceding that an attack on Pearl Harbor prior to a declaration of war would be no less a casus belli if the attack was beaten off with heavy losses to the attackers. It seems to be a common feature of many conspiracy theories that, told as a conventional narrative from beginning to end, they are patently nonsensical, and it's because they aren't ever composed that way round.

Dave
 
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