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NIST Fire Simulations

And it is clear to see that if you set fire to something, it burns.

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Ehhh?


Hans
 
grandmastershek said:
Has this been discussed elsewhere? If so where? And my apologies, I genuinely looked.

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Not that I know of.

Are there any interesting claims or new evidence in the video, and if so,m could you provide a synopsis? Thanks.
 
Just truthers screaming that if there is no collapse here there should have been no collapses in the WTC.
 
From the video explanation. Heat is left out.
The products of flaming combustion are primarily carbon dioxide and water vapor.
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Primary product, heat, it kills; left out why?. Don't worry people, all we have, water vapor, and carbon dioxide, Fire!. Was it the water vapor and carbon dioxide that weakened the steel? Forced people to jump?

I have fire to harvest the primary product, heat.


NIST fire simulations will be, and have been used by dolts to support their idiotic claims on 911. 911 truth failed to understand the goal of the simulations.
 
I noticed that too Beachnut. I think what they mean to say is byproducts, and only the primary ones.

Heat being the one product of the organic process.

It's confusing though how they worded it.
 
As I remember it (and I am going from memory here) NIST found that no fire rating tests had been done on the floor truss systems, so they recreated a floor truss system and did a test to find it's fire rating, which of course would not cause the system to collapse, as the conditions were different to it being part of a bigger system in the building. In other words it wasn't to determine if their model would collapse.

ETA: just found this:

http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build05/PDF/b05042.pdf
 
Fly Poster said:
As I remember it (and I am going from memory here) NIST found that no fire rating tests had been done on the floor truss systems, so they recreated a floor truss system and did a test to find it's fire rating, which of course would not cause the system to collapse, as the conditions were different to it being part of a bigger system in the building. In other words it wasn't to determine if their model would collapse.

ETA: just found this:
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Fly Poster said:


http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build05/PDF/b05042.pdf
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From the above link:
Looks like the concrete aggregate was Haydite - expanded clay or shale, not fly ash.
Stephen Hayde invented and patented the method of making a structural grade lightweight aggregate early in the twentieth century. The process uses a rotary kiln to pyro-process and expand clay, shale or slate. The end product is a strong and durable lightweight aggregate used in numerous types of construction throughout the world.

Hayde named the product after himself. Although the original patents have long since expired, the term "Haydite" is used by several companies in marketing their expanded shale lightweight aggregate.
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grandmastershek said:
Has this been discussed elsewhere? If so where? And my apologies, I genuinely looked.

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Please show this to the next jackass who comes in here shrieking that because the smoke in the towers was black, the fire was going out.

Can we assume that those cubicle dividers were steel? Want to know what happens to steel in a fire? It warps.

Look at the framed window on the left at about 5:00. What are those glowing blobs falling from the frame? Aluminum? Plastic? Could we say that this casts serios douts on the twoofer assessment of the flow of glowing metal out of the south tower just before collapse?
 
Fly Poster said:
ETA: just found this:

http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build05/PDF/b05042.pdf
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Note that the conditions of the test were "ideal" and in no way representative of the real world conditons in the building.

For instance, the test assemblies were sand blasted and primed after they were welded up. That was not done n the field. In fact, there were some issues with surface scale formation on the WTC steel that adversely affected the long term adhesion of the SFRM.


BTW, here is another paper pertinent to the discusion that you might find interesting

http://www.fire-research.group.shef.ac.uk/Downloads/SC_Baltimore.pdf
 
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