NICK REDFERN: TRUTH ABOUT ROSWELL

Re: Re: Roswell

songstress said:

I don't like the idea of being able to put certain posters on 'ignore.' If we were a debating society meeting 'in the flesh' and someone chose to ignore someone else in that situation, that person would immediately be looked upon as 'rude' and quite rightly so. The concept and purpose of debate, disagreement and sometimes agreement, is that we learn from one another; even if our views don't change, at least we have a more broader outlook.

Patsy.
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Ashles said:
In this I certainly agree with you. I have never put anyone on ignore on this or any other board.

I can choose to not respond to certain posters, but if you put someone on ignore you may miss something interesting that person has to say - even if it is something you disagree with.
It may be something you previously didn't know, or it may be just entertainment. But removing someone's opinions from your view will not be of benefit to you in the long run.

It's like sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting 'la la la la'.

An aceptable debating tactic - if you're 5.
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I disagree. In a debating society format, there are clear and enforceable rules concerning conduct that go far beyond the JREF forum rules. Some of the JREF threads are more like a "no-holds-barred" brawl than a debate. (Some are not, and it's those threads I really enjoy.) Having said that, most of the discussions that happen here would be halted in a formal debate environment due to conduct of one or more participants - so you can't really compare the two "arenas" fairly.

"Ignore" is a necessary function on message boards; individuals may misuse it, but that's their issue - citing the function as generally inappropriate is an error.

Personally, I don't use ignore myself - but I also don't expect others to conduct themselves to my standards regarding exchanges, even though there are many here that exceed my standards for conduct. (Ashles among those! :))
 
Hi jmercer,

I can see what you are saying, and I agree that some discussions here do border on the hysterical, but ignoring someone across the board means that one misses out on things. As Ashles says, to ignore someone might mean that you miss out on something important, even if one disagrees with what the poster has said.

I make no secret that I am a practising medium; I think that everyone here knows this. However, I do enjoy reading and debating with those who have different views on such things and if I had chosen to ignore half the people here, I would have been very bored! I have discovered that we have more in common than we care to realise.

I have something else to confess...I am a member of HP (excellent site) and as a moderator of that site, sometimes I am kept very busy, I had only been posting for a short while on JREF when HP duties took up more time than anticipated. Someone from this website went into HP and kindly asked why I hadn't posted on JREF and please would I consider making a reappeance? This came from one of 'arch' sceptics on this site, and I was very flattered that he thought that I had something worthwhile to contribute.

Therefore, I am not going to ignore anyone here, since we all have something worthwhile to say.

Patsy.
 
songstress said:
Therefore, I am not going to ignore anyone here, since we all have something worthwhile to say.

Patsy.
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I agree. And this is one of the nice things about the JREF. You can have, to all intents and purposes, a blazing row with someone here, or at least heated and frustrating exchanges with someone.

But that doesn't mean the next day you might find yourself in full agreement with that person on a different matter.

It just goes to show how being a sceptic or a 'believer' doesn't consist of a single personality with strict rules.

Everyone is sceptical some of the time, and almost everyone has a couple of irrational beliefs.

Putting people on ignore may well prevent you from seeing those times when you do agree with them.

(Of course some posters just unrelentingly drive people up the wall, especially if they are pure trolls, so I understand it in that situation, but generally that type of poster tends to get banned fairly quickly anyway.)
 
Ashles,

Proof positive that we have a lot in common in our ways of thinking.

I like that. As you say, not everyone can agree and not everyone disagrees. It is to what extent and to what degree that manifests itself. I too, get wound up by certain people who come along here, post and then b***r off. Nothing is more frustrating. Apart from those types, I enjoy speaking to all posters here. I have learned a lot, and I would like to think that others have learned something from me.

Thanks, Ashles.

Patsy.
 
'S true - just because I trained to become a medium, it doesn't mean that I am not also a sceptical person.

One cannot have one without the other. If one does, it leads to all sorts of daft things, like believing in David Icke's nutty rantings, aliens from the Pleiades, and all sorts of other daft stuff. Like most rational people, I switch my deaf aid off when it comes to that.

Thank goodness.

Patsy.
 
Well ya can't please everybody. Can't win every argument. Cant win every battle. There is a point where ya have to give up on some people. I guess everyone decides on that point for themselves..
 
Re: Roswell

songstress said:
Dear Ashles,

I haven't ignored anyone. That would be a very rude thing to do.
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Well, we all have our own styles. I don't think it's at all rude to put someone who is combative and rude to begin with on ignore. Rather than engage in pointless rounds of attack/defense and being insulted, I just prefer to put someone on ignore. It's not rude, it's stress maintenance, lol.
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songstress said:
Hi jmercer,

I can see what you are saying, and I agree that some discussions here do border on the hysterical, but ignoring someone across the board means that one misses out on things. As Ashles says, to ignore someone might mean that you miss out on something important, even if one disagrees with what the poster has said.

I make no secret that I am a practising medium; I think that everyone here knows this. However, I do enjoy reading and debating with those who have different views on such things and if I had chosen to ignore half the people here, I would have been very bored! I have discovered that we have more in common than we care to realise.

I have something else to confess...I am a member of HP (excellent site) and as a moderator of that site, sometimes I am kept very busy, I had only been posting for a short while on JREF when HP duties took up more time than anticipated. Someone from this website went into HP and kindly asked why I hadn't posted on JREF and please would I consider making a reappeance? This came from one of 'arch' sceptics on this site, and I was very flattered that he thought that I had something worthwhile to contribute.

Therefore, I am not going to ignore anyone here, since we all have something worthwhile to say.

Patsy.
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I’ m glad you’re here even if I don’t always agree with you. You can always learn something from another person, believing that someone has nothing to contribute is kind of arrogant. There are after all, only two worthwhile things in life. They are learning and making.

Heck; I find it easier to deal with someone who’s being illogical and rude than someone who’s being polite. I just tell them to sog-off and I’m done! It’s much simpler than having to think about a logical reply. Of course, plugging my ears is the easiest thing of all but I’ve never found anyone on this forum I’d want to do that to.
 
Of course, plugging my ears is the easiest thing of all but I’ve never found anyone on this forum I’d want to do that to. [/B]
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Actually... I've been strongly tempted from time to time. Paul Carey is someone that I've seriously thought about putting on Ignore... not because he makes me angry, but because his posts are utterly valueless.

I guess I haven't done it just because he's not worth the effort. :)
 
jmercer said:
Actually... I've been strongly tempted from time to time. Paul Carey is someone that I've seriously thought about putting on Ignore... not because he makes me angry, but because his posts are utterly valueless.

I guess I haven't done it just because he's not worth the effort. :)
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Paul...Carey? Paul....Carey..*A?*

Valueless? My dear sir! Our esteemed Paul has one distinction which sets him apart from any within earshot. A distinction that lifts him to new heights of something…distinction— yes that’s it! Something remarkable and I would remark on it—were I able. ;)
 
The Odd Emperor said:
Paul...Carey? Paul....Carey..*A?*

Valueless? My dear sir! Our esteemed Paul has one distinction which sets him apart from any within earshot. A distinction that lifts him to new heights of something…distinction— yes that’s it! Something remarkable and I would remark on it—were I able. ;)
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Let's not forget he was responsible for one of the best recipe threads in ages.
 
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