DavidJames
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quite a few, can you name maybe 25 of them?Kodiak said:
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DavidJames said:
My post was a stab at humor, but the best humor has some basis in truth...
Hmmm...let's see...
Three probables just off the top of my head: Reid Bryson, Lowell Ponte, Paul Ehrlich.
I'm not the only one of this opinion.
Then there is the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement.
Maybe less than 25, maybe more than 25. Whatever the number, they're out there.
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LFTKBS said:
Sound like somebody needs a hug....
quite a few, can you name maybe 25 of them?
To name 25 enviormentalists who would rather exterminate humanity than hurt the (rest of the) biosphere?
Well, we can start with the loons who are fighting against the evil, genetically modified wheat and rice ("golden rice", etc.) I believe there are more than 25 of them around, unfortunately.
These foods saved the lives of millions upon millions of people; these so-called enviormentalists would rather have them starve naturally than eat "frankenfoods", as they call golden rice & co.
For these people, the lives of millions is less important than sticking to their ignorance about genetics and agriculture, an ignorance based on the silly notion that "natural" = "good" and "modified" or "aritificial" = "bad".
Save the wheat! Starve the people! Hey, it's easy to protest evil, "artificial" foods... when you're not hungry.
To name 25 enviormentalists who would rather exterminate humanity than hurt the (rest of the) biosphere?
Well, we can start with the loons who are fighting against the evil, genetically modified wheat and rice ("golden rice", etc.) I believe there are more than 25 of them around, unfortunately.
These foods saved the lives of millions upon millions of people; these so-called enviormentalists would rather have them starve naturally than eat "frankenfoods", as they call golden rice & co.
For these people, the lives of millions is less important than sticking to their ignorance about genetics and agriculture, an ignorance based on the silly notion that "natural" = "good" and "modified" or "aritificial" = "bad".
Save the wheat! Starve the people! Hey, it's easy to protest evil, "artificial" foods... when you're not hungry.
Skeptic said:
No, here anyway, the people who oppose Round-Up Ready wheat are the farmers. 80% of their markets don't want GMO food, and since there's no way to keep the genes out of the rest of the crops we can just watch the price on our whole crop tumble as soon as 5% of the crop is planted to Mon-sanity.
And GMO wheat, by the bye, will do little to fix world hunger. Wheat is produced in such overabundance that its dollar price is the same today as it was 40 years ago.
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Jesus isn't THAT the truth. Shoving a TV camera and a microphone at the grieving mother and asking ridiculously insensitive questions like " Mrs.Burg how do you feel about what happened to your son?"Mycroft said:
How do you think she feels you stupid fuk, having learned her son had be murdered in such a barbaric fashion.
The fourth estate has it's place and has served in the past to be a vehicle of exposure of corrupt politicians, priest pedophiles and general injustices committed in the peoples name. More and more however, it is becoming an entity that titillates the great unwashed who like to gawk at automobile wrecks. Bleh
DavidJames
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Ok, that is one wacky site and I withdraw my question. I should have qualified my question to include something like 25 otherwise normal or reasonable or rational people or something like that. Extremists can be found on any position and silly me, didn't account for them....a broad brush stroke which I don't think hit's the mark, but....
nevermind
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And almost as sickening is the habbit of taking such statements from grieving survivors and using them to support some argument. It's understandable that the Burgs are upset with the FBI and are looking to place blame on them, but that doesn't mean the FBI is culpable.
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Mycroft said:
I couldn't agree with You more. unfortunately there will always be those people who will turn a tragedy into a political case or a financial opportunity.
Ed said:
It's not quite fitting in with my mood, no.
A friend of mine had also seen the video before we had lunch this afternoon. We didn't really converse, just sat there and picked at our food. All I could think about was that death multiplied by the tens of thousands of deaths that this war has caused, the "normal" deaths that occur every day, and how one day it will be me or my family.
I just want to go home and go to bed.
karl said:
I will stop. I will not hijack. But GMO wheat (and GMO Canola) are designed to be resistant to the herbicide Round-Up (glycophosphate IIRC) also made by Monsanto. It has nothing to do with increasing yield, or changing the growing requirements. It apparently does not do much to improve the farmers bottom line, but, of course, it was intended to improve Monsanto's.
I have stopped. Anybody else is welcome to the last word.
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tedly said:
I completely agree. GM crops are the biggest joke ever...I'm amazed at how Monsanto has been so succesful at convincing people these crops can save anybody. All they do is force third world farmers to spend their money on Monsanto's herbicides and pesticides instead of on whatever they used to spend it on. This has been extraordinarily well documented.
Same goes for "Golden Rice". This isn't going to help anybody. I've heard various statistics, but a general consensus is that,
1) the human body barely even absorbs vitamin A in the form found in "Golden Rice" and
2) one would have to eat absolutely ridiculous amounts of it in order to make any sort of nutritional difference. A teenage boy would need to consume 25 bowls of golden rice PER DAY just to meet his vitamin A requirement. What a joke. Thanks Monsanto.
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In the words of evironmental/vegetarian activist John Robbins (who I happen to agree with ON THIS PARTICULAR issue:
"The biotech companies have invested billions of dollars because they sense in this technology the potential for enormous profit, and the means to gain control over the world’s food supply. It is increasingly obvious that if they succeed, the poor will not benefit, and those who are hungry will not find themselves fed.
If you doubt this, consider this reality. For countless centuries farmers have fed humanity by saving the seed from one years crop to plant the following year. But Monsanto, the company that claims its motives are to help feed the hungry, has developed what it calls a “Technology Protection System” that renders seeds sterile. Commonly known as “terminator technology,” and developed with taxpayer funding by the USDA and Delta & Pine Land Company (an affiliate of Monsanto), the process genetically alters seeds so that their offspring will be sterile for all time. If employed, this technology would ensure that farmers cannot save their own seeds, but would have to come back to Monsanto year after year to purchase new ones.
Critics refer to these genetically engineered seeds as suicide seeds, and they are none too happy with them. “By peddling suicide seeds, the biotechnology multinationals will lock the world’s poorest farmers into a new form of genetic serfdom,” says Emma Must of the World Development Movement. “Currently 80 percent of crops in developing countries are grown using farm-saved seed. Being unable to save seeds from sterile crops could mean the difference between surviving and going under.”
To these companies, the terminator and other seed sterilizing technologies are simply business ventures that have been designed to produce profit. In this case, there is not even the implication of benefit to consumers. “Monsanto’s goal,” says Rachel’s Environment and Health Weekly, 'is effective control of many of the staple crops that presently feed the world.'"
http://www.foodrevolution.org/askjohn/53.htm
"The biotech companies have invested billions of dollars because they sense in this technology the potential for enormous profit, and the means to gain control over the world’s food supply. It is increasingly obvious that if they succeed, the poor will not benefit, and those who are hungry will not find themselves fed.
If you doubt this, consider this reality. For countless centuries farmers have fed humanity by saving the seed from one years crop to plant the following year. But Monsanto, the company that claims its motives are to help feed the hungry, has developed what it calls a “Technology Protection System” that renders seeds sterile. Commonly known as “terminator technology,” and developed with taxpayer funding by the USDA and Delta & Pine Land Company (an affiliate of Monsanto), the process genetically alters seeds so that their offspring will be sterile for all time. If employed, this technology would ensure that farmers cannot save their own seeds, but would have to come back to Monsanto year after year to purchase new ones.
Critics refer to these genetically engineered seeds as suicide seeds, and they are none too happy with them. “By peddling suicide seeds, the biotechnology multinationals will lock the world’s poorest farmers into a new form of genetic serfdom,” says Emma Must of the World Development Movement. “Currently 80 percent of crops in developing countries are grown using farm-saved seed. Being unable to save seeds from sterile crops could mean the difference between surviving and going under.”
To these companies, the terminator and other seed sterilizing technologies are simply business ventures that have been designed to produce profit. In this case, there is not even the implication of benefit to consumers. “Monsanto’s goal,” says Rachel’s Environment and Health Weekly, 'is effective control of many of the staple crops that presently feed the world.'"
http://www.foodrevolution.org/askjohn/53.htm
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My apologies, I agree that the thread hijacking was inappropriate. I skipped to page 2 and promptly forgot which thread I was in.
No more GM posts from me.
No more GM posts from me.