Grammatron
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Malachi151 said:
Anda parent... who may be a shoe salesman, if to make that decision, instead of a doctor?
Here is a better one. Let's say that there is an outbreak of a contagous disease and you decide that you don't want to have anyone in your family vacccinated against it, but by doing so you pose a risk to other people because you are then a possible carrier and spread of the disease.
So who's "liberties" take prioristy? Do you force the person to become vaccinated? Do you allow then not to become vaccinated but tell them they have to stay in solitary confinemnt? (in which case you are still forcing them to do something) or do you do nothing and then have then exist as a threat to the community?
Military draft is the same issue. 69% of all Americans that fought in WWII were drafted. Many did not want to fight, many thought that the Germans wee the good guys.
Now, in a situation like that if they choose not to fight then they put other people at risk. Do they have that choice?
To put it on more simple terms. A person is trapped under a car, it required 5 people to lift the car to save the person inside. 3 people are ready to help, the other 2 decide they don't want to. Do they have the "right" to allow someone else to die because they don't want to help them? War can be essentially the same situation. Were Americans in WWII improperly forced against their will to fight to save the world from fascist domination?
Libertarianism is a load of crap.
So is communism but that's not the point of my response.
If a person poses a risk to other his rights that person needs to be contained (i.e. a mental patient).
Anyone can get out of a draft with a reasonable excuse, so yes, they have a choice.
Unless those 2 people put that person under that car there are not responsible for getting that person from under that car. Yes it would be the right and human thing to do, but if they want to be a-holes like that it's their right.