NHS funding of homeopathy

If, as it seems, they are lumping Homeopathy with other complementary medicines I fear there is little hope.

For example, some herbal remedies clearly work. Homeopathy clearly does not, beyond placebo.

Writing to each MP explaining that other complementary medicines may have efficacy but homeopathy clearly does not may help.

Any qualified person willing to do so *cough* Rolfe *cough*.

I would be willing to add my signature/name to any such letter.

Thoughts?

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Looking around, hpathy writes:

If you are a UK resident, tell your MP to sign Early Day Motion 1240 in support of NHS Homoeopathic Hospitals. Two hundred MP’s must sign this motion by July 6th. There is a sample letter in this journal asking MP’s to sign EDM 1240.


That date has passed and they didn't get the 200. But I don't know what would happen if they did.
 
I PM'd Rolfe and he's agreed to help.

I'm serious - let's get this letter written. Polite, not aggressive or condescending, but explaining exactly what homoeopathy is. Most people just conflate it with "natural", and this is the misconception we need to counter!
 
I PM'd Rolfe and he's agreed to help.

I'm serious - let's get this letter written. Polite, not aggressive or condescending, but explaining exactly what homoeopathy is. Most people just conflate it with "natural", and this is the misconception we need to counter!

If you start a thread about this let me know and I'll make it a sticky and mention it in the next Newsletter.
 
No need to reinvent the wheel surely.

Perhaps a copy of the Homeopathy document published by "Sense about Science" could be included, with a punchy intro on why NHS homeopathy is a waste of space, time and our money?

ETA - perhaps I'd better post this on the sticky I guess.

ETA again - see I've been beaten to it.
 
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Finchley resident Pam Kish, 52, suffers from breast cancer and chronic fatigue syndrome, and has been taking homeopathic medicine since 2002.

She said: "It was a kangaroo court and it's disgraceful they can get away with it. These are public servants who are here to help us.

Has anyone suggested that there are other hospitals in the area that will treat cancer cases, and that these credulous patients can buy their sugar pills themselves at any local pharmacy?
 
Sorry volatile.

:blush: I didn't refresh before posting and missed your post.

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Homeopathy supporters taking to the streets

A new development…

SIGN THE PETITION - Homeopathy worked for me

Defending choice in medicine

H:MC21 was set up in September 2007 to inform the public about homeopathy and its relation to orthodox medicine. It will do this through research, publication and campaigning.

Campaign
Our first project is to counter the wave of negative publicity by collecting signatures to the following declaration:

Homeopathy worked for me

If you would like to sign this declaration now, please visit http://www.hmc21.org. You can also go to our Campaign page to find out more.

Everyone who has benefited from homeopathy can sign this declaration.

It not only gives a voice to those people whose experience is denied by the recent attacks, it will also, for the first time, begin to establish the extent to which homeopathy has helped the general public in the UK, whether through prescription or self-medication.

March
We plan to organise a march on the 22 June 2008 to coincide with the end of Homeopathy Awareness Week. Organisers will take the complete list of names to No.10 Downing Street with the demand that the NHS honours the commitment to homeopathy enshrined in its charter, and that positive steps be taken to enable everyone who needs homeopathy to obtain it through the NHS.

With your help, it is possible for us to collect at least 250,000 signatures by next June!


http://www.naturopathy-uk.com/blog/2007/10/09/sign-the-petition-homeopathy-worked-for-me/


Will we be seeing Peter Fisher waving a placard at the head of the march?
 
Apparently 42% of GPs in the UK refer patients to homeopaths:
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/Pharmacology/dc-bits/ernst-tips-sept-2005.pdf


Research carried out for the recent consultation about funding of the Tunbridge Wells Homeopathic Hospital found that although 52% of GP practices in West Kent referred patients to homoeopaths, less than 1% of the patients in those practices were referred, and referral was almost always at the patient's request rather than as a result of a clinical decision.

http://www.westkentpct.nhs.uk/EasySiteWeb/GatewayLink.aspx?alId=11159 (pdf document)
 
...and this page caused a loud guffaw from me! Don't hold your breath anybody.


Some news. Not only have they filled that page…

Why It Works 1 - Arguments for Homeopathy
http://www.hmc21.org/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/2555?opendocument&part=4

…but they’ve also managed to fill another one:

Why It Works 2 – Questions about Orthodox Medicine
http://www.hmc21.org/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/2555?opendocument&part=5


In fact, it seems that the campaigners have had a burst of activity. On Saturday, two of their founding members plus staff from the Royal London Homeopathic Hospital (RLHH) and the League of Friends of the RLHH, joined a 7,000-strong march through central London protesting against cuts in the NHS:
http://www.hmc21.org/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/2555?opendocument&part=8

This was the leaflet that they handed out during the demonstration:
http://www.hmc21.org/phdi/p1.nsf/pages/2555:A5DemoSingle.pdf/$file/A5DemoSingle.pdf


And they’ve even made an attempt to answer their critics:

Balance in the survey

Surely in order to gain a balanced response and a survey outcome free from bias, "No" & "Don't Know" options should be available. (TW)

However, in real research it's normal to allow a "no" option or even a "maybe" or "don't know". If you provided alternatives, you'd be much more likely to get an accurate answer, even if it isn't the answer you were hoping for. (BR)

At this time we are not trying to discover what outcomes people have experienced from homeopathic treatment. To do that we would need to gather far more evidence than simply their view of their treatment. For example, it would be important to know who prescribed the treatment; to establish the degree of training the prescriber had received; to verify the existence of the prescriber; and so on.

The current survey is an attempt to establish only one piece of information: how many people in the UK believe that they have benefited from homeopathy, so to gather any other information is not only pointless, but would entail a lot of work sorting out the unnecessary answers and throwing them away. If you want to know the height of Beachy Head, you do not measure all the other cliffs. We have been clear about the fact that we are seeking certain information, and we have framed the survey to gather only that information. This is efficient and appropriate.

The options you suggest would introduce massive bias, since the "No" and "Don't know" answers could come from people who have never had homeopathic treatment, and as a result there would be no basis for a useful statistical relationship between the "Yes" option and the others. Indeed, any attempt to create one would inevitably be biased, and so gathering this additional information would be a waste of time.


Insight and self-appraisal

Our complaint is that homeopaths appear to lack any insight into what they are doing. There is almost no critical self-appraisal of their own work. (The Quackometer)

The practice of homeopathy requires constant and thorough critical self-appraisal of one’s work, and, as has been pointed out in What are randomised control trials?, the choice of remedy involves a careful assessment of the reaction to the previous one. As for insight into what we are doing, this is growing all the time. For example analyses are being developed:

• Of the relationship of different chemical elements in their action on the human body (see Scholten Books & Links: Homeopathy - Remedies);

• Of the actions of different classes of substance (whether from mineral, vegetable or animal origins) (see Sankaran Books & Links: Homeopathy - Theory);

• Of emotional factors and how they relate to illness (see Sankaran Books & Links: Homeopathy - Theory);

• Of treatment for autism, Asperger syndrome and ADHD (see Reichenberg-Ullman Books & Links: Homeopathy - Practice);

• Of different methods of approach and their appropriatenes for particular cases (see Watson Books & Links: Homeopathy - Practice);

• Of the process of consultation (see Kaplan Books & Links: Homeopathy - Practice).


Homeopathy as a positive experience

It is the blind refusal to accept anything other than that homeopathy can be a positive experience. (The Quackometer)

Reactions to potentised remedies vary and they may not be entirely positive experiences, or indeed pleasant ones. This is explained in Why It Works – 1 (see Reactions and Provings).


http://www.hmc21.org/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/2555?opendocument&part=7#opponents


Looks like it’s back to square one.
 
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<< SNIP >>

This was the leaflet that they handed out during the demonstration:
http://www.hmc21.org/phdi/p1.nsf/pages/2555:A5DemoSingle.pdf/$file/A5DemoSingle.pdf

From the leaflet:

Homeopathy has a consistent scientific theory of health and illness. All aspects of the theory can be tested and verified. Its medicines cannot be patented and are cheap to produce. It produces no side effects, no rebound effects, and the medicines still work in the same way as they did 200 years ago. Homeopaths have detailed records of the process of treatment which constitute evidence second to none in the medical world.

Wrong Planet? Different Universe? :mad:
 
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Looks like it’s back to square one.
No. They can bluster all they like, and churn out reams of drivel such as this, but they have the skids under them and they know it. Note that under `Why it works' they can only muster one reference, a paper which I have read and is notorious for being a load of pseudo-political claptrap. I won't dignify any more of this rubbish with further analysis.:mad:
 
"For example, it would be important to know who prescribed the treatment; to establish the degree of training the prescriber had received; to verify the existence of the prescriber; and so on."

Seems like they're still beating the "No True Homoeopath" drum..
 
From the last link in Blue Wodes posting
Exasperation
I would like to express my exasperation with the professor at Exeter University who keeps rubbishing homeopathy and other alternative approaches to the treatment of illness and disease. Every so often the "establishment" (in this case the medical one) has a fit of demonising what it would like to see eliminated, rather like Hitler demonising the Jews. The media rushes off to find a scientific "expert" who will confirm its suspicions that "there is nothing in homeopathy". There is a tendency in the human psyche to demonise or ridicule anything that threatens the "safe" orthodox view and that cannot be "rationally" explained, which boils down to a fear of the unknown. It should be resisted by every possible means. We still know too little about how the bodymind organism works to draw absolute truths from any branch of science. At the root of this denial is the secular belief that nature is without consciousness and that there is no dimension of reality beyond the human brain. (Anne Baring)

The professor is Edzard Ernst who slates homeopathy but supports acupuncture. Can't please them all I suppose.
Aah, the old Hitler comparison, Anne Baring is obviously rattled.
'There is nothing in homepathy' Very correct.
If there is so little known about this thing called a bodymind organism, whatever it is, shouldn't we have some evidence based investigations and not bodymindless blatherings?
Now we can see, they are not on a different planet, the're in a different dimension.
 

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