Newdow yet again.....This time the inauguration

varwoche said:
Can you cite a public school textbook/cirriculum that teaches "homo=hetero"?
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Nope. Would you care to aver that any public school teaches homo=aberant behavior?


As to the baby-killers comment, need I remind you that legal abortion is the of the land? Are you suggesting that schools keep this fact secret?
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The Dred Scott decision was also once the law of the land.
 
hammegk said:
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The Dred Scott decision was also once the law of the land.
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hammy, looks like you listened well to Bush, your favorite political philosopher, in the debates. I am so glad that he's not going to appoint any justices that would have voted for the Dred Scott decision.

I'm also glad that he's not going to let those darned Kaklamanians invade our pristine shores.
 
hammegk said:
My favorite political philosopher is Machiavelli. :)
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I would have thought it was the Scarecrow from The Wizard of Oz.


You know, no brains, but plenty of straw.
 
case dismissed

The case was dismissed yesterday.

Reason given: Newdow has no standing.
 
The real reason is that the courts would rather not get bullied by Congress and the White House on such issues again. 9th district courts got their pee-pee stomped for trying to uphold the Constition already.
 
Ed said:
Is anyone there who is actually obligated to be there? Aren't those the only people who could complain? It seems to me that if one found the whole thing so offensive they could just not go.

While I am an atheist, I find a lot of the bitching and moaning about religion to be little more than just bitching and moaning.
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As I understand it, Newdow somehow got himself invited to the Inauguaration. He was on H&C the other night. As one guest pointed out, Newdow probably wrangled the invite so that he could complain.

I've seen Newdow on only a few occasions on H&C and other shows. He doesn't seem like a crackpot to me. He's actually quite calm and pretty logical when arguing the language of the Constitution and how it differs from the language of the DOI eleven years prior. Up until this recent stint, I'd admired his efforts to draw the public's attention to how the government, intentionally or not, embraces the Judaeo-Christian faith. But, this last effort seems to be so insignificant, in comparison, that I fear the more important issues will get lost in the shuffle.

Newdow takes a lot of heat and I respect anyone who tolerates that kind of ...uh....intolerance, whether he's grandstanding or not. Personally, I'm far more concerned about the words "under God" in the POA and "In God We Trust" on our currency. I wish he'd focus more on that and less on some trite little incantation at Dubya's coming-back party...:rolleyes:
 
crimresearch said:
Uhhhmmm... I think if we do a little checking, we will find out that the Supreme Court is pretty much in the business of overturning cases that lower courts have agreed on, and this wouldn't be the first time they turned down a flawed case, and waited for one in which they could deliver a more definitive verdict.
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I agree. But the issue of standing rarely makes or breaks the quality of a case. Thus my statement that the Supremes rarely reject a case based on standing. Again, I agree with you that they often reject cases for other reasons, however.

I admit to no expertise here. Maybe Brown can help out when he is back.
 
I must admit I reluctantly agree with Ladyhawk. This inaugeration suit is a distraction - maybe even a serious distractioin. He has at least 8 good, solid litigants lined up for his next go at the Pledge issue. I do think the Pledge issue is a valuable one but it (and he) will be taken less seriously because of this current affair.

BTW, regarding a previous post about money, Newdow has clear, stated plans to go after "In God We Trust" after he wins the Pledge case. Anyway, that is the way he puts it.
 
I watched some of the innaguration... I must say, I felt like an outsider when I was forced to watched it, like a second class citizen, whenever a mention of god, or the bible, or the koran, or blessing, or anything even having the letters r, e, l, i, g, o, and n in it came on for that .001% of the time.

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Sorry, was channelling newdoo for a second there.

I don't beleve in any gods, and wasn't particularly threatened or upset at all with it.
 
Newdow must not have known that the swearing in ceremony is done by the President placing his hand on the Bible of his choosing.
 
Seemed like a 16 minute sermon, and Newdow was fretting about the 'amen' at the end.
 
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