New Zealand: The Official Kiwi Thread!

[Damien Evans]

Oi! Did you miss that Bret won an Oscar.

The only thing Aussie can claim from the 2012 Academy Awards is winner Meryl Streep once portrayed an Aussie!



Joh? Are you kidding? The longest-serving, most-corrupt Premier in Queensland's history? A man who oversaw QLD go from banana state to the moonlight state?

Sheesh.

Next you'll be trying to claim the pavlova or Phar Lap!

Aussie bandits.

FTFY.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzgerald_Inquiry

 

[The Atheist]

Yes we had little to cheer about assuming we ignore the 5 nominations we had including best actor, best actress best supporting actor. But oh well I guess victories are where you find them...no matter how small they might be

Nomination, schmomination.

Who remembers the losers? Winners names are etched onto the statuette.

Only an Aussie would claim winning an Oscar is a "small victory".

How'd your league team go the last couple of times we played them? (Do NOT mention the previous 200 games, k?)

 

[The Atheist]

FTFY.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzgerald_Inquiry

Most popular, most corrupt - it's Aussie politics and you have Abbott as PM and Palmer United Party in the senate on a horse-trading deal.

Old Joh looks straight as a die compared to the current crop.

And I wouldn't hesitate to remind you that while he was indeed born in NZ, he was only one year old when he moved to Aussie, so you could certainly say he learnt all his tricks in Australia.

 

[Damien Evans]

Nomination, schmomination.

Who remembers the losers? Winners names are etched onto the statuette.

Only an Aussie would claim winning an Oscar is a "small victory".

How'd your league team go the last couple of times we played them? (Do NOT mention the previous 200 games, k?)

Oh yeah, well how'd your Union team go the last, oh, wait...


never mind.

 

[MG1962]

Oh yeah, well how'd your Union team go the last, oh, wait...


never mind.

Stick to Farnarkling we can beat them at that

 

[Damien Evans]

Stick to Farnarkling we can beat them at that

And Cricket, most of the time.

 

[MG1962]

How'd your league team go the last couple of times we played them? (Do NOT mention the previous 200 games, k?)

Not sure what you mean about the last couple of times. You won once in 2011 and once in 2014. We won the other 9 games in between.

But if you are going to claim that then I am going to argue that Australia winning the Bledislo cup in 2001 proves we are far superior to the All Blacks in all facets of Rugby

 

[The Atheist]

Not sure what you mean about the last couple of times. You won once in 2011 and once in 2014. We won the other 9 games in between.

But if you are going to claim that then I am going to argue that Australia winning the Bledislo cup in 2001 proves we are far superior to the All Blacks in all facets of Rugby

Ooops!

You really are out of date with the news, mate.

The last twice we played the Kangas was last weekend in the final of the 4 nations, and three weeks earlier in the round-robin. That would be two within the past month.

Right at the top of the page: 30-22 in Australia and 22-18 over here.

Read 'em and weep!

 

[MG1962]

Ooops!

You really are out of date with the news, mate.

The last twice we played the Kangas was last weekend in the final of the 4 nations, and three weeks earlier in the round-robin. That would be two within the past month.

Right at the top of the page: 30-22 in Australia and 22-18 over here.

Read 'em and weep!

Obviously a typo

 

[The Atheist]

Promising signs from Andrew Little, with a solid, and very brown front-row of his shadow cabinet.

The mix of three brown and three white faces on the front bench, split also 3/3 male/female is clever work, and picking staunch Clarkite Annette King as deputy salves the need for a woman without going silly and appointing Jacinda Ardern before her time.

I hope Key is viewing all this with his smirk firmly in place, this is a real capital O Opposition he is now facing.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Promising signs from Andrew Little, with a solid, and very brown front-row of his shadow cabinet.

The mix of three brown and three white faces on the front bench, split also 3/3 male/female is clever work, and picking staunch Clarkite Annette King as deputy salves the need for a woman without going silly and appointing Jacinda Ardern before her time.

I hope Key is viewing all this with his smirk firmly in place, this is a real capital O Opposition he is now facing.

We'll see, wait till the right wingers in our media have stirred the pot for a few months and start rumors of a coup again...

 

[megaresp]

Oh and I am short the Kiwi dollar.

Any particular reason?

 

[The Atheist]

We'll see, wait till the right wingers in our media have stirred the pot for a few months and start rumors of a coup again...

Not this time.

And I see Little Johnny Combover has been found to have dirty hands over the Cameron Slater affair. Amazing.

 

[The Atheist]

Any particular reason?

I dunno about her reasons, but I can tell you what mine are:

1 The Prime Minister and central bank, Reserve Bank of NZ, want it lower.

2 Farmers and other exporters want it lower, hence 1

3 The RBNZ has already intervened to bring the currency down once and indicated it would do so again.

4 Drastic falls in dairy returns will create both reduced need for Kiwi dollars and less interest in NZ as a safe haven.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Not this time.

And I see Little Johnny Combover has been found to have dirty hands over the Cameron Slater affair. Amazing.

As I say we'll see. Considering that it was a 50.5 to 49.5 split, I would not be surprised to start seeing the rumors within 6 months, especially if Labour's polling stays below 30. A few of the "right" commentators start stirring the pot about how there is trouble in the ranks and...

Now having said that I actually voted for Andrew in the General Election, I do like him, but unless he can weld the factions together so that no political editors can start saying that there is in fighting and be believed, then Labour is going to stay stuck in its hole.

 

[megaresp]

I dunno about her reasons, but I can tell you what mine are:

1 The Prime Minister and central bank, Reserve Bank of NZ, want it lower.

2 Farmers and other exporters want it lower, hence 1

3 The RBNZ has already intervened to bring the currency down once and indicated it would do so again.

4 Drastic falls in dairy returns will create both reduced need for Kiwi dollars and less interest in NZ as a safe haven.

Ah, thanks for your reasoning. I might have to buy a few NZD and stash them under the mattress.

 

[The Atheist]

Ah, thanks for your reasoning. I might have to buy a few NZD and stash them under the mattress.

No, that would exactly the wrong way around.

 

[The Atheist]

As I say we'll see. Considering that it was a 50.5 to 49.5 split, I would not be surprised to start seeing the rumors within 6 months, especially if Labour's polling stays below 30. A few of the "right" commentators start stirring the pot about how there is trouble in the ranks and...

Won't happen this time, for several reasons:

1 He has nailed "old Labour" with Anette King, so there will be no pressure from there.

2 Robertson: as a chubby, gay bloke, probably realises he will never win an election because he has no appeal at all outside of the hard left. He should also be pretty comfortable at #3, so I can't see him looking to challenge.

3 Little is smart, and street smart with it. EPMU had real grunt when he was in charge, and people underestimate his talents.

4 There are no realistic challengers.

I would be betting heavily the other way - that six months will see him not just entrenched as leader, but also a real thorn in Johnny Combover's side. I'm picking you will see Little at heights in the preferred PM stakes that Labour hasn't seen before Johnny's rise.

Now having said that I actually voted for Andrew in the General Election, I do like him, but unless he can weld the factions together so that no political editors can start saying that there is in fighting and be believed, then Labour is going to stay stuck in its hole.

Oh, no doubt that this is Labour's last roll of the dice.

I said to Helen Clark ten years ago that she was setting up a succession problem for Labour by not seeking able-bodied men to groom for leadership. I think she tried to do that and thought Shearer was The One and Only, but he turned out to be The Boring and Lonely.

Hey, it might all be forlorn hope, but at least at this time there is some hope.

Wouldn't have been if Robertson, won.

 

[smartcooky]

I'd like some opinions on what the Government is in the process of doing as regards bringing in Laws to identify possible recruits who want to head over to Syria and fight for Islamic State. Ultimately, those Laws are likely to be used stop them going.

While I agree with the idea of putting potential ISIL fighters under surveillance, I don't agree with the idea of stopping them from leaving. I don't want people with that kind of mindset (to want to join ISIL) living in this country, especially if they are likely to be pissed off about not being allowed to go.

If we have sufficient surveillance resources and the ability to know enough about these people to stop them going, then why not just let them go to Syria (where they are more likely to become cannon fodder than effective fighter) and then revoke their passports and citizenship after they leave so that they cannot come back.

 

[The Atheist]

I'd like some opinions on what the Government is in the process of doing as regards bringing in Laws to identify possible recruits who want to head over to Syria and fight for Islamic State. Ultimately, those Laws are likely to be used stop them going.

Seems to me they're doing what this government has done on several occasions - most notably in the Urewera raids - panicking.

In fact, the yellow-bellied slime in the Beehive right now are such goddamned gutless panickers that a couple opf weeks ago, when a gunman attacked Canada's Parliament, they locked down the House in Wellington!

They sit well with Australia's insane response to date, including the 800 cops to arrest a guy from the wrong sect with a toy sword.

It also neatly increases their power of surveillance.

If we have sufficient surveillance resources and the ability to know enough about these people to stop them going, then why not just let them go to Syria (where they are more likely to become cannon fodder than effective fighter) and then revoke their passports and citizenship after they leave so that they cannot come back.

How do you know which side they're going to be on? Along with the headline-making Jihad Johns there are quite a few expat Germans, British and others fighting with the Peshmerga, who let me check....

Yes, they're our friends at the moment.

You also have to be careful of which side they're supporting in Syria. Al-Assad was our friend, then our enemy, and now he's sort of ok again. Those kids he gassed were probably destined to grow up and become ISIS fighters.

Maybe we could just return to the idea of people being innocent of a crime until they commit one? This pre-judging doesn't seem to work out so well, and using "police"and intelligence" in the same sentence just doesn't ring right.