New YouTube video shows children reciting Pledge without "under God" in December 1950

[Towlie]

New YouTube video shows children reciting Pledge without "under God" in December 1950

This video was posted today by Democratic Underground user "KAMouflage". He says:

I took it directly from an old videotape put out by Reader's Digest called, "The Fun and the Feel of the Fifties."

It shows children reciting the Pledge on December 7, 1950, on the eve of the Korean War, which explains the reference to "World War III" at the end.

The children do not say "under God" because the movement to add the phrase began the following year and was made official in 1954 during the Eisenhower Administration. (See also, McCarthyism.)

This video could be one more piece of graphic ammunition to use against those ubiquitous and frustrating claims that the USA is a "Christian nation".

 

[Peephole]

Someone tell Sarah Palin.

 

[ponderingturtle]

This video was posted today by Democratic Underground user "KAMouflage". He says:


It shows children reciting the Pledge on December 7, 1950, on the eve of the Korean War, which explains the reference to "World War III" at the end.

The children do not say "under God" because the movement to add the phrase began the following year and was made official in 1954 during the Eisenhower Administration. (See also, McCarthyism.)

This video could be one more piece of graphic ammunition to use against those ubiquitous and frustrating claims that the USA is a "Christian nation".

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Your Commie propoganda will never convince me. Better dead than Red.

You hear that Red States! I will not permit your dirty comunism into my america!

 

[mhaze]

It shows children reciting the Pledge (blah blah blah lbah)which explains the reference to (blah blah blah blah) The children do not say "under God" (blah blah blah lbah) the following year (blah blah blah blah) McCarthyism (blah blah blah blah) video could (blah blah blah blah) ammunition (blah blah blah blha) USA is a "Christian nation".

Yawn.

 

[leftysergeant]

Yawn.

Would it spoil your day if I reminded you that the pledge was written by a SOCIALIST?

 

[Towlie]

Would it spoil your day if I reminded you that the pledge was written by a SOCIALIST?

That's it, pour some salt on his wounds!

 

[Thunder]

Communism good. Socialism bad.

 

[Beerina]

Fixed it for you.

 

[mhaze]

Would it spoil your day if I reminded you that the pledge was written by a SOCIALIST?

Not at all. Socialists are not illegal here, as your continued existence indicates clearly.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Can't you just get rid of the pledge altogether? It wouldn't seem out of place if it was in Kim Jong-Il high school in Pyongyang.

 

[the_eye]

Yawn.

It's important because it details the growing role of Religious Fundamentalism in American politics, a reactionary rejection of what is perceived to be Communist values. It also signals the decline of Intellectualism (if it existed at all) in American political culture.

 

[Towlie]

At my request, "WhoIsNumberNone", another Democratic Underground member, has repaired the audio-video sync problem and reposted the video here:

This is the pledge as it was originally written- before theocrats added 'under God'. This video is from the eve of the Korean War, and depicts the pledge as it was from 1923 to 1954. I was not the original poster of this vid- but the original audio was 13 FPS out of sync with the video, and there was some dispute over whether the video had been "re-touched" to exclude the phrase 'under God'. The audio is now in sync, so you can judge for yourself.

 

[Eyeron]

By the way....

 

[WildCat]

By the way....

Complete BS IMHO.

The Nazi salute has its origins (or at least was thought to) in the Roman Empire, thousands of years before the US even existed. In fact, it's usually called the Roman Salute. And this makes much more sense, since the Nazis saw the 3rd Reich as an extension of the Roman Empire and adopted many Roman symbols, such as the eagle.

 

[Dr Adequate]

The Nazi salute has its origins (or at least was thought to) in the Roman Empire, thousands of years before the US even existed. In fact, it's usually called the Roman Salute.

Er ... no. No, that is not what it is usually called.

 

[Baylor]

This video could be one more piece of graphic ammunition to use against those ubiquitous and frustrating claims that the USA is a "Christian nation".

This is the best "ammunition." In fact, it's so good, it's all you need.


Treaty of Tripoli
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli#Article_11

 

[Towlie]

By the way....

It's a load of crap that the Nazis were socialists in any sense of the word, even though they deceitfully used the term in their propaganda much the same way that American conservatives falsely call themselves "patriots" and invoke our Founding Fathers today. Socialism is a slightly left of center ideology, but the Nazis were more accurately described as fascists - an extreme right-wing position.

 

[Towlie]

This is the best "ammunition." In fact, it's so good, it's all you need.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli#Article_11

I almost agree. I'd say that it should be all you need, but the video has the advantage of being effective on people who don't read so well.