Because the gun should never had been displayed in the first place, and certainly without having been cleared.
New York Shootings in Mall?
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Because the gun should never had been displayed in the first place, and certainly without having been cleared.
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But what if it was riding up/digging in and needed to be adjusted to it sat better?
But he wasn't adjusting it, he was showing it off.
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No he wasn't, he was alone with his wife in the elevator and she wasn't looking. It wasn't showing it off, who knows why he pulled it then put it back and caused it to fire. The need to adjust seems more likely than showing it off to someone who isn't paying attention.
I thought you were referring to the schoolroom incident.
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I was specific about elevators and linked to that shooting. Guns just go off and anyone who carries one needs to expect to eventually shoot themselves in the leg.
They do? I've never seen that.
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I wonder .. when did this 'no safety' mania started ? Well obviously revolvers don't have one. But then old west revolvers were mostly single action, you had to cock them.
But after that there was period when all guns had them. Did it start with Glocks ?
But then cocked and locked 1911 doesn't seem that much more safe. Yes, you need to manipulate the safety and THEN pull the trigger, but safety on 1911 is huge, easily moved involuntarily, and the trigger is notoriously super light.
It seems like lots of people carry with round in chamber, ready for fast shot straight from draw.
But after that there was period when all guns had them. Did it start with Glocks ?
But then cocked and locked 1911 doesn't seem that much more safe. Yes, you need to manipulate the safety and THEN pull the trigger, but safety on 1911 is huge, easily moved involuntarily, and the trigger is notoriously super light.
It seems like lots of people carry with round in chamber, ready for fast shot straight from draw.
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Sure you try to put one in a holster without paying the utmost of attention to it and it goes off as seen in that video.
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At least the 1911 had a grip safety to make it some what better.
Of course you can look at odd balls like how the french were not fans of safeties on rifles like the Lebel as you were not supposed to carry it chambered.
But no one ever buys a gun because of how safe it is. And as the culture calks up all failures to the operator and not poor engineering of the firearm there is little incentive to make them safer.
Yes, the trigger pulled. It didn't just go off.
No matter what the gun, you always have to pay the utmost attention when handling it. There is absolutely no reason to re-holster a weapon hastily, whether it has an external safety or not. Never much cared for Glocks anyway.
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Sure there is, when you have it out and now need your hands for something, you certainly shouldn't just drop it, though that might be safer, as there is more engineering in making sure guns do not go off when dropped vs holstered.