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New World Order - The Movie

This is on the Pirate Bay for those of you who don't have IFC and don't mind breaking copyright laws. I should have it in about half an hour.
 
Is there any sight quite so beautiful as CT nuts fighting amongst themselves?

Alex is right on a lot of things but he wont touch the jewish question. That's why he's still on the air.

You criticize jews, your career/life is OVER!

Just look what happened to poor Bobby Fischer!

And he was one of them!
 
I was stuck without a date tonight, so I watched this. Having already seen most of the background material, the first half was a tad boring and predictable.

However, there were a few scenes that I found insightful.

We spend a lot of time discussing the con-man v. lunatic paradigm of Alex Jones. The scene in the hotel, in which Jones is convinced "they" are out to get him, and goes on to do a radio interview anyway, really takes that debate to a whole new level.

At first blush, it looked like Jones was clearly a media pariah, a con-man/attention whore/call it what you will. It takes a desperate dog to ignore a fire alarm to do an interview.

But a few moments later, Jones is still ranting on about the evil plots against him. If he doesn't genuinely believe his delusion, he is the greatest method actor of our generation, and is wasting his considerable talent. I think he does believe, and at the same time, is a theatrical media whore. But there is some serious paranoia in him, and that scene really shows it.

I also like that the film included a scene in which a 9-11 truther meets two men who worked in the pentagon on 9-11, and another scene in which a passer-by mentions that "this bull**** [9-11 truth] has already been debunked". Naturally the CT is unswayed, but the viewer is given some much-needed context after an extremely sympathetic introduction to these characters.

In the end, this film is clearly more interested in the specific personalities involved, rather than any specific theories, or debunking those theories. It plays like a bio of Alex Jones, and although highly sympathetic, it also shows some less than flattering moments for "our hero".

Has anyone else seen it? I'd love to discuss in greater detail.
 
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Alex is right on a lot of things but he wont touch the jewish question.

What are you talking about? Alex attacks Jews all the time. He just uses the code word "Zionists" in place of "Jews" so that idiots will be fooled into thinking he isn't a racist prick.
 
What are you talking about? Alex attacks Jews all the time. He just uses the code word "Zionists" in place of "Jews" so that idiots will be fooled into thinking he isn't a racist prick.

No. He attacks zionists. Not jews. Alex is a liar.

He says that he is not afraid of the "new world order", yet when the jewish question is brought up he dodges and sputters.
 
At first blush, it looked like Jones was clearly a media pariah, a con-man/attention whore/call it what you will. It takes a desperate dog to ignore a fire alarm to do an interview.

My take on that is either he or his crew set off that alarm so AJ could have one his patented dramatic meltdowns or Unsecured Coins happened to be staying at the hotel that night and had another shot at him.

I really liked the way these guys all think they're being followed, Especially AJ and his shirtless secret service agents, on bicycles no less.

If this documentary isn't a hit piece then they missed a good chance at one.
 
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My take on that is either he or his crew set off that alarm so AJ could have one his patented dramatic meltdowns

Considering that the documentary's cameraman was present, that would have been pretty bold. Watch the scene- it might be staged, but it plays as extremely authentic.

... or Unsecured Coins happened to be staying at the hotel that night and had another shot at him.

:dl:

I really liked the way these guys all think they're being followed, Especially AJ and his shirtless secret service agents, on bicycles no less.

Hey- they had cell phones. Clearly they were on the phone with their NWO superiors.

If this documentary isn't a hit piece then they missed a good chance at one.

This is better than a hit piece- it is completely fair, if not sympathetic. These characters are shown for what they are, well-meaning, yet deluded and paranoid.
 
I kind of want to see this, but when I see CTers in non-textual media, I always feel so embarrassed for them.

It's like the end of Little Miss Sunshine, when she does the dance her grandfather put together for her (which I won't spoil here). You can't really watch it but you can't stop laughing either.
 
I just watched the movie. I can honestly say I feel sorry for some of the people shown in that movie.

Alex Jones is not one of them. The movie reinforced my opinion of what I think of him.

A little backstory-

I have an employee (young male, early 20's) who started talking about Bohemian Grove and Alex Jones. I watched the "Secrets in Bohemian Grove" video. Then I watched several Alex Jones videos, visited his website, and of course, read threads here at JREF. At first, I thought Alex was bat-guano crazy, but slowly that changed.

Alex Jones seems like a businessman to me. The "Gene Simmons" of conspiracy, if you will. He promotes his theories, but in the process he is ultimately promoting himself. He sells shirts, hats, DVDs, books, short-wave radios, auctions off his bullhorn, tells advertisers they can reach millions of potential customers on his website, etc. It seems amazing that as his paranoia has increased so has his business acumen.

What sickens me is how he makes money off of paranoia, disillusionment, anger, and ignorance. He's an emotional/financial predator.

He's no better than Benny Hinn.

I'm thankful to all of the JREF posters who keep debunking the garbage Alex spews. The young man who works for me is starting to doubt what Alex is selling. I'm repeating your arguments and pointing him to the sources you all refer to. Hopefully, he won't end up down the rabbit hole...
 

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