New Video on Barry Jennings and Michael Hess

[alienentity]

I've just finished a little video examining the testimony of Barry Jennings and Michael Hess. The purpose is to corroborate their stories with known times and events.

I got interested in doing this when I came across the 2007 interview of Mr. Jennings by Dylan Avery, and noticed that Mr. Jennings seemed to contradict himself in some important ways.

The most problematic statement he makes is that when he broke a window with a fire extinguisher and looked outside, he saw burning police cars and buses.
Mr. Hess corroborates this observation as well.

It is very difficult to come to any other conclusion but that the two men in fact had just experienced the collapse of Tower one. (having just emerged from the stairwell collapse/explosion).

It is not possible to interpret this as having occurred at 9:00am.

 

[jhunter1163]

What they experienced was the second plane impact, not the collapse of a tower.

 

[alienentity]

What they experienced was the second plane impact, not the collapse of a tower.

Huh? Did you watch the video? Hess and Jennings report police vehicles and buses on fire, dust and office paper flying around. That's post-tower collapse stuff.

Also WTC7 was experiencing fire as well after WTC 2 collapsed. It's all on the video.

This is just the sort of weird confusion I was trying to clear up. Damn. Here we go again...

 

[jhunter1163]

Huh? Did you watch the video? Hess and Jennings report police vehicles and buses on fire, dust and office paper flying around. That's post-tower collapse stuff.

Obviously, if the event Jennings is talking about occurred at 9 am it can't be the tower collapse. The second plane hit at 9:03, though.

 

[alienentity]

The first fire alarm was reported at about 10:00am, around the time the power shut off.

There was no fire when the second plane hit.

Besides, WTC 1,the closest building, was hit first, while Jennings was driving to work. The large debris from the second plane impact (landing gear etc) didn't go anywhere near the NW side of WTC7.
It landed on WTC5 and a couple of blocks NE of WTC7.

Hess clearly stated that the power went out while they were on the 23rd floor. that happened around 10:00am. I included the Sept 11, 2001 interview with Hess to corroborate exactly that point!
There is no other explanation for this.

 

[alienentity]

Obviously, if the event Jennings is talking about occurred at 9 am it can't be the tower collapse. The second plane hit at 9:03, though.

Jennings is clearly confused about the exact time. It is not possible according to his timeline. Sorry.

You should watch the video before making more erroneous statements.

 

[jhunter1163]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116661

Discussed here.

ETA: Also here.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85646

ETA2: I apologize for my hasty and erroneous statements.

 

[alienentity]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116661

Discussed here.

For the last time. The power to the elevators was gone. That happened when the S. Tower collapsed at roughly 10:00am.

Case closed. I don't need to read another thread, I already have these facts.

 

[Brainster]

Excellent job, I have posted to SLC.

 

[alienentity]

Excellent job, I have posted to SLC.

Thanks!

AE

 

[T.A.M.]

For the last time. The power to the elevators was gone. That happened when the S. Tower collapsed at roughly 10:00am.

Case closed. I don't need to read another thread, I already have these facts.

jhunter is on your side, so even though you may have things correct, it never hurts to read the discussion others here have had on the matter...might help clear other things up, etc...

just a thought.

TAM

 

[leftysergeant]

That was one of the best videos I have seen on the subject of WTC 7 on all of YT. THe content and the production values far surpass most of the postings there. I applaude your work most enthusiasticly.

It might now be worthwhile to compare the accounts of fire fighters who responded to the strikes to get a timeline on some other events. As adddled as he may seem, I think that parts of Schroeder's statements contradict Willie's, if you lay them out against a similar ruler of time.

 

[Edx]

brilliant work btw alienentity, just finished. Hope you keep making videos

 

[alienentity]

That was one of the best videos I have seen on the subject of WTC 7 on all of YT. THe content and the production values far surpass most of the postings there. I applaude your work most enthusiasticly.

It might now be worthwhile to compare the accounts of fire fighters who responded to the strikes to get a timeline on some other events. As adddled as he may seem, I think that parts of Schroeder's statements contradict Willie's, if you lay them out against a similar ruler of time.

Do you have a favorite source for Schroeder's story? I'd love to have a link.

thx

 

[cyclonic]

Brilliant video.

 

[leftysergeant]

Do you have a favorite source for Schroeder's story? I'd love to have a link.

thx

Schroeder is discussed at some length here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89612

I bring it up here to point out how the same event will be observed differently from different locations. Trauma often clouds what we percieve in a chaotic situation.

But this may be a slight derail if we discuss Schroeder much further at this point.

 

[bill smith]

I've just finished a little video examining the testimony of Barry Jennings and Michael Hess. The purpose is to corroborate their stories with known times and events.

I got interested in doing this when I came across the 2007 interview of Mr. Jennings by Dylan Avery, and noticed that Mr. Jennings seemed to contradict himself in some important ways.

The most problematic statement he makes is that when he broke a window with a fire extinguisher and looked outside, he saw burning police cars and buses.
Mr. Hess corroborates this observation as well.

It is very difficult to come to any other conclusion but that the two men in fact had just experienced the collapse of Tower one. (having just emerged from the stairwell collapse/explosion).

It is not possible to interpret this as having occurred at 9:00am.

You are very good at making videos I must say.v That's a very classy production. I haven't really studied the content yet. I'll get back to you on that.

 

[Tweeter]

Nice video. Did you get permission from Loose change to use their video?

 

[bill smith]

I've just finished a little video examining the testimony of Barry Jennings and Michael Hess. The purpose is to corroborate their stories with known times and events.

I got interested in doing this when I came across the 2007 interview of Mr. Jennings by Dylan Avery, and noticed that Mr. Jennings seemed to contradict himself in some important ways.

The most problematic statement he makes is that when he broke a window with a fire extinguisher and looked outside, he saw burning police cars and buses.
Mr. Hess corroborates this observation as well.

It is very difficult to come to any other conclusion but that the two men in fact had just experienced the collapse of Tower one. (having just emerged from the stairwell collapse/explosion).

It is not possible to interpret this as having occurred at 9:00am.

This is Hess's original statement where he does mention an explosion. Interestingly the reporter goes on to refer to explosionS...plural which some might think a little odd.

'' Anchor: 'Frank go ahead'...Reporter: 'That's right, I'm standing here right now just off broadway by City hall with Michael Hess who is the City's corporation ouncel' . 'Mr Hess', 'you were trapped I believe in Seven World Trade Centre,,,go ahead Sir'. ..Hess: 'Yes I was', 'I was up in the EOM on the 23rd floor and when all the power went out in the building another gentheman and I walked down to the 8th floor where here was an explosion and we were trapped on the 8th floor with smoke, thick smoke all around us for about an hour and a half hut the NYFD, as terrific as they are just came and got us out' Reporter: . 'Why did you happen to be at that particular place when the explosions took place '? Hess: 'Well the EEOM is where Ciry officials go when there is any emergency such as this one' Reporter: . ''How do you feel that the emergency management is going to be handling the situation ....it seems like they are still trying to arrange triage areas and areas of command [unintelligible]'...Reporter: 'where will they be now '? Hess; 'I don't know where the centres will be but obviously the mayor and commissioner Sheirer of OEM are watching the situation carefully, taking all the right moves and everything's under control' . Reporter: 'Where is the Mayor located now ' ? Hess: 'I don't know myself...as I say I was trapped in seven world trade centre for the last hour and a half'. Reporter: 'Thank you very much'...''
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfiLbXMa64

 

[sleahead]

Yep, and that interview is timed at approximately 11:57 am. Hess's estimate of being trapped in the building for an hour and a half fits very nicely with the explanation that his 'explosion' was in fact the collapse of WTC1.