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New truth effort AE911

The minimalism of this "new truth effort" is unbelievable. A billboard scolding the New York Times for not taking the Truthers' side. Not attacking the conspirators. Not even exhorting the public to take action against the conspirators. No, it's remonstrating the press for failing to exhort the public to take action against the conspirators. It's like trying to solve global warming by raising a few bucks for an opposition candidate against an incumbent who's failing to support laws requiring the public to use less carbon-producing energy. Of course, people do that too, with comparable effectiveness.

Guys planning gimmicky marriage proposals manage to rent billboards. It's not that difficult. I won't be impressed if AE911Truth somehow pulls it off.

Wouldn't a Letter to the Editor be a more efficient way to communicate their feelings to the Times? Of course the newspaper probably wouldn't publish it, but if the goal is just to scold the editor, it doesn't matter whether it's published or not.
 
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I am wondering about the "bubble" that truthers live in. For sure people seem to gravitate to what they already believe in... for some confirmation and affirmation of their world view.
Are some, many or no truthers looking into the non CD explanations? There are websites that discuss non CD explanations for the collapse of the WTC.

If they do explore the non CD information... are they dismissing it as "lies" or some form or cover up/deception? How do they dismiss "science"... and engineering?

I don't see "truthers" aside from GerryCan and TSzamboti on these sites and they don't appear to land an punches in the fight for truth. Both these fellas are intelligent and able to understand the engineering. Why do they remain truthers? Why are they not convinced by the scientific arguments?

And if people like Gerry and Tony remain truthers.... is there any hope for the lay person truther to "see the light".

What is the fundamental reason that truthers are not "getting" the science? Gage seems to be simply an narcissist who is exploiting people for money.... classic grifter. He may not even believe his own nonsense but if people are dumb enough to send him money he carries on the fiction. But maybe he is in the same bubble of ignorance.

What say you?
 
JSanderO said:
I am wondering about the "bubble" that truthers live in. For sure people seem to gravitate to what they already believe in... for some confirmation and affirmation of their world view.
Are some, many or no truthers looking into the non CD explanations? There are websites that discuss non CD explanations for the collapse of the WTC.

If they do explore the non CD information... are they dismissing it as "lies" or some form or cover up/deception? How do they dismiss "science"... and engineering?

I don't see "truthers" aside from GerryCan and TSzamboti on these sites and they don't appear to land an punches in the fight for truth. Both these fellas are intelligent and able to understand the engineering. Why do they remain truthers? Why are they not convinced by the scientific arguments?

And if people like Gerry and Tony remain truthers.... is there any hope for the lay person truther to "see the light".

What is the fundamental reason that truthers are not "getting" the science? Gage seems to be simply an narcissist who is exploiting people for money.... classic grifter. He may not even believe his own nonsense but if people are dumb enough to send him money he carries on the fiction. But maybe he is in the same bubble of ignorance.

What say you?
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IMO, they are all narcissist believing in the notion that the event couldn't have been so "simple" and they know the "truth" and want to expose the big bad government for its involvement/concealment of the "true" events leading to the collapse.
 
I don't think that they actually believe what they are saying, so I think they are in any bubble of ignorance.
 
Robin said:
I don't think that they actually believe what they are saying, so I think they are in any bubble of ignorance.
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That is to say I don't think that they are in a bubble of ignorance because they don't actually believe what they are saying
 
It appears to be quite common for this particular billboard to be used to allege wrongdoing by the New York Times. You can see something similar in the Google street views.
 
Fonebone said:
The billboard is up!
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/794...veil-billboard-castigating-the-new-york-times
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Your OP informed us that AE911 solicited donations to cover costs of $17,000 for this billboard.

Can you please find out for us how much they did raise, and what happens with the difference - positive or negative?

AE is a notoriously intransparent organization, that even failed to inform in a timely fashion about the recent and sensational change of its leadership.
 
AE911T spreads lies to gullible donors, is it a tax scam for rich buddies

Fonebone said:
The billboard is up!
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/794...veil-billboard-castigating-the-new-york-times
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https://www.facebook.com/ae911truth/ Did you report to FACEBOOK the lies, False Information? Did you do the right thing, or blindly believe lies and fantasy born in ignornace or Greed.

Oops, false information posted on Facebook... AE911T promotes lies and false information.

How stupid is stupid enough to believe the lies AE911T spread?

Report the false information, there is a lot at https://www.facebook.com/ae911truth/... the comments expose ignorance and insanity.
 
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The laziest most minimal of publicity efforts. Discount electronics outlets, proselytizing local churches, and guys planning gimmicky marriage proposals can rent billboards.
 
It's just sick of ae911truth to use those poor people that way. Even if they believe it, it's still taking advantage of people who haven't ever properly dealt with their grief. Campbell and McIlvaine need to be protected and helped, not taken advantage of by grifters and liars.

ae911truth is as low as the "psychics" who claim to communicate with lost loved ones or who create false hope hunting for missing persons - dishonestly profiting from others' misery.
 
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Anyone who is paying attention to the news these days... is aware of the rise of "conspiracy thinking/theories" and Qanon. For sure this demonstrates that critical thinking is a fading and fantasy is ascendant.

It's not unreasonable to be surprised by the WTC and look for sensible explanations. It is unreasonable to speculate and fabricate false and unsupported fantasies which is what defines AE911T. What is worse is that they claimed to have done research about the collapse of the WTC. This is a lie. They never engaged in an technical analysis or even engaged with those who were studying building performance. They came up with bogus junk science to bolster their fantasy and sold it (literally and figuratively) to naive people who have a basic distrust of "authority". Gage is a poster child for a grifter. He is smart enough to know better but chooses to delude himself as well. He's a malignant narcissist.
Exploiting naive people seems to be very common in this country.
 
Oystein said:
Your OP informed us that AE911 solicited donations to cover costs of $17,000 for this billboard.
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$17,000? But it's TINY! :roll:
There are pictures in fonebone's link. Truly comical futility, and, as you say Oystein, it would be good to know how much that little postage stamp really cost.
Follow the money, that's what they keep telling us, isn't it? :D
 
Cosmic Yak said:
$17,000? But it's TINY! :roll:
There are pictures in fonebone's link. Truly comical futility, and, as you say Oystein, it would be good to know how much that little postage stamp really cost.
Follow the money, that's what they keep telling us, isn't it? :D
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And since it is a digital board their ad probably isn't even on all the time, just one of a series of ads showing one after the other.
 
Robin said:
And since it is a digital board their ad probably isn't even on all the time, just one of a series of ads showing one after the other.
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The billboard is constructed of vinyl impregnated fabric and tied to the building wall with grommets and elastic cordage tied to metal tie-downs
clamps fastened into the building masonry brickwork. The images and words are ink-jet printed onto the fabric and cured with Ultra Violet Light
to fix the colors images and text from sunlight and weather.



https://www.ultraflexx.com/billboard-material/
 
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Robin said:
And since it is a digital board their ad probably isn't even on all the time, just one of a series of ads showing one after the other.
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No, it's not a digital billboard.

I still think it's stupid and exploitative, but it's not digital.
 
Fonebone said:
The billboard is constructed of vinyl impregnated fabric and tied to the building wall with grommets and elastic cordage tied to metal tie-downs
clamps fastened into the building masonry brickwork. The images and words are ink-jet printed onto the fabric and cured with Ultra Violet Light
to fix the colors images and text from sunlight and weather.



https://www.ultraflexx.com/billboard-material/
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My mistake.
 
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