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Donn said:
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Curiously enough, when Einstein was asked, years later, about his beliefs in the telepathic experiments of Dr JB Rhine, then studying parapsychology at Duke University, he stressed his scepticism in strictly scientific terms. All of Rhine's experiments had reported that psi-forces did not decline with distance, unlike the four known forces of nature - gravity, electromagnetism, the strong force and the weak force. "This suggests to me a very strong indication that a non-recognised source of systematic errors may have been involved," Einstein wrote

(Not re the book M is talking about, but psi in general.)


A non-recognised source of systematic errors. What a line!
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I don't think Einstein can really be blamed for writing this, his reaction, as a physicist, was understandable. I have found, in my own research, that people apparently still "perceive my thoughts" in Australia or New Zealand (while I remain in Belgium; this means "on the other side of the world"). But, in my opinion, this does not violate any law of Physics: I still believe that telepathic communication probably declines, decreases at very large distances. However, the thing is, the distance has to be big enough. This means that, if you want to stop "hearing" Michel H's thoughts, don't just go to Australia, try to go instead to the Moon, or, even better to planet Mars. It would seem our brains have extraordinary sensitivities to detect electromagnetic (?) telepathic waves.

One of the very few human beings who walked on the Moon was Edgar Mitchell, whose last name resembles my first name (Michel), and who seems to have conducted some ESP experiments with four friends on Earth, on his way back to Earth during the Apollo 14 flight, in 1971. He later founded the "Institute of Noetic Sciences" for the purpose of consciousness research and other "related phenomena". Dean Radin, one of the best known parapsychologists nowadays, works at that institute. I think I can reasonably speculate that Mitchell's interest in parapsychology might be somehow related to the simple fact he happened to have a name resembling mine.

However, it is not necessary to go to Pluto or to another galaxy to "escape" my "telepathic waves" (if they exist of course), there is perhaps a much simpler way: go into a submarine, and deep enough in the sea. Beyond a certain depth, if telepathic communication is really of an electromagnetic nature (which is likely, in my opinion), you should stop "hearing" me telepathically, because electromagnetic waves are strongly absorbed in seawater, particularly at high frequencies (this is related to the conductivity of salt water; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines )

Is this true (, that you may stop perceiving my thoughts in a submarine)? I would love receiving some reliable information about this, from people who have been in a submarine (I have personally been in planes several times, but never in a submarine, like probably the majority of you), or, indirectly, from people who know people who have been in submarines (and who could perhaps ask).
 
Michel H said:
I don't think Einstein can really be blamed for writing this, his reaction, as a physicist, was understandable. I have found, in my own research, that people apparently still "perceive my thoughts" in Australia or New Zealand (while I remain in Belgium; this means "on the other side of the world"). But, in my opinion, this does not violate any law of Physics: I still believe that telepathic communication probably declines, decreases at very large distances. However, the thing is, the distance has to be big enough. This means that, if you want to stop "hearing" Michel H's thoughts, don't just go to Australia, try to go instead to the Moon, or, even better to planet Mars. It would seem our brains have extraordinary sensitivities to detect electromagnetic (?) telepathic waves.

One of the very few human beings who walked on the Moon was Edgar Mitchell, whose last name resembles my first name (Michel), and who seems to have conducted some ESP experiments with four friends on Earth, on his way back to Earth during the Apollo 14 flight, in 1971. He later founded the "Institute of Noetic Sciences" for the purpose of consciousness research and other "related phenomena". Dean Radin, one of the best known parapsychologists nowadays, works at that institute. I think I can reasonably speculate that Mitchell's interest in parapsychology might be somehow related to the simple fact he happened to have a name resembling mine.

However, it is not necessary to go to Pluto or to another galaxy to "escape" my "telepathic waves" (if they exist of course), there is perhaps a much simpler way: go into a submarine, and deep enough in the sea. Beyond a certain depth, if telepathic communication is really of an electromagnetic nature (which is likely, in my opinion), you should stop "hearing" me telepathically, because electromagnetic waves are strongly absorbed in seawater, particularly at high frequencies (this is related to the conductivity of salt water; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines )

Is this true (, that you may stop perceiving my thoughts in a submarine)? I would love receiving some reliable information about this, from people who have been in a submarine (I have personally been in planes several times, but never in a submarine, like probably the majority of you), or, indirectly, from people who know people who have been in submarines (and who could perhaps ask).
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No.
 
Michel H said:
I don't think Einstein can really be blamed for writing this, his reaction, as a physicist, was understandable. I have found, in my own research, that people apparently still "perceive my thoughts" in Australia or New Zealand (while I remain in Belgium; this means "on the other side of the world"). But, in my opinion, this does not violate any law of Physics: I still believe that telepathic communication probably declines, decreases at very large distances. However, the thing is, the distance has to be big enough. This means that, if you want to stop "hearing" Michel H's thoughts, don't just go to Australia, try to go instead to the Moon, or, even better to planet Mars. It would seem our brains have extraordinary sensitivities to detect electromagnetic (?) telepathic waves.

One of the very few human beings who walked on the Moon was Edgar Mitchell, whose last name resembles my first name (Michel), and who seems to have conducted some ESP experiments with four friends on Earth, on his way back to Earth during the Apollo 14 flight, in 1971. He later founded the "Institute of Noetic Sciences" for the purpose of consciousness research and other "related phenomena". Dean Radin, one of the best known parapsychologists nowadays, works at that institute. I think I can reasonably speculate that Mitchell's interest in parapsychology might be somehow related to the simple fact he happened to have a name resembling mine.

However, it is not necessary to go to Pluto or to another galaxy to "escape" my "telepathic waves" (if they exist of course), there is perhaps a much simpler way: go into a submarine, and deep enough in the sea. Beyond a certain depth, if telepathic communication is really of an electromagnetic nature (which is likely, in my opinion), you should stop "hearing" me telepathically, because electromagnetic waves are strongly absorbed in seawater, particularly at high frequencies (this is related to the conductivity of salt water; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines )

Is this true (, that you may stop perceiving my thoughts in a submarine)? I would love receiving some reliable information about this, from people who have been in a submarine (I have personally been in planes several times, but never in a submarine, like probably the majority of you), or, indirectly, from people who know people who have been in submarines (and who could perhaps ask).
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I've been on a sub. Only docked up though.

It is quite horrible.

I'm claustrophobic.

Apparently it is pretty cool when in action. As long as someone doesn't open the window
 
Michel H said:
... you should stop "hearing" me telepathically, ... (, that you may stop perceiving my thoughts in a submarine)? ...
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We haven't even started to hear or perceive your thoughts directly.
The biggest 'telepathy' inhibitor is the brain itself, as it is incapable of autonomously transporting its thoughts as thoughts outside its physical boundaries.

Except for speech and in a more crude form through facial expressions or behavior of the body which contains the brain in question.
 
Daylightstar said:
We haven't even started to hear or perceive your thoughts directly.
The biggest 'telepathy' inhibitor is the brain itself, as it is incapable of autonomously transporting its thoughts as thoughts outside its physical boundaries.

Except for speech and in a more crude form through facial expressions or behavior of the body which contains the brain in question.
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Speak for yourself.

I hear voices like Michael.

I see dead people.

Everywhere
 
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I have felt it.

Either that or it's an L upside down because I'm in the southern hemisphere
 
Michel H said:
This is a difficult question, because the answer might depend upon whether Cloud Cuckoo Land is under or above the ionosphere ;)
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I am breaking my rule against posting in this thread, because I must inform you all that I read that word as "loonosphere."

To those of you making sarcastic guesses: Please don't. Read through the thread for examples of why.
 
Donn said:
I liked this para:
Curiously enough, when Einstein was asked, years later, about his beliefs in the telepathic experiments of Dr JB Rhine, then studying parapsychology at Duke University, he stressed his scepticism in strictly scientific terms. All of Rhine's experiments had reported that psi-forces did not decline with distance, unlike the four known forces of nature - gravity, electromagnetism, the strong force and the weak force. "This suggests to me a very strong indication that a non-recognised source of systematic errors may have been involved," Einstein wrote

(Not re the book M is talking about, but psi in general.)


A non-recognised source of systematic errors. What a line!
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Einstein ALSO didn't believe in entanglement, which he called "spooky action at a distance".

From Wikipedia: "Quantum entanglement is a physical phenomenon that occurs when pairs or groups of particles are generated or interact in ways such that the quantum state of each particle cannot be described independently — instead, a quantum state must be described for the system as a whole." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

He did not like entanglement because when the particles are separated and a measurement or observation is made to one particle, the information is instantly available to the other particle, irrespective of distance. In his theory of relativity nothing travels faster than light. So he could not see that information could travel faster than light.

Einstein and others did a thought experiment, the EPR paradox (Einstein, Podolsky, Rosen paradox), which attempted to show that quantum mechanical theory was incomplete.

In 1964 John Bell showed mathematically that Einstein's idea was wrong. And work done later by Stuart Freedman and John Clauser in 1972 and by Alain Aspect's experiments in 1982 have all shown agreement with quantum mechanics and that entanglement (spooky action at a distance) is real.

In my understanding, for this to be true, there has to be a reality that underpins the physical reality, which is essentially a singularity (timeless and spaceless) where all information about the physical reality is contained.

So the point is that there is grounds in quantum mechanics that at least theoretically supports Psi, which really is no different to entanglement. Information can be known by two entangled (related) persons (& animals) at a distance and known instantly. And IMO at any distance, including from the other side of the universe. :thumbsup:
 
kyrani99 said:
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So the point is that there is grounds in quantum mechanics that at least theoretically supports Psi, which really is no different to entanglement. Information can be known by two entangled (related) persons (& animals) at a distance and known instantly. And IMO at any distance, including from the other side of the universe. :thumbsup:
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In spite of your opinion, no 'psi' has ever actually been demonstrated to actually have occurred.
 
Psi has been demonstrated!

Daylightstar said:
In spite of your opinion, no 'psi' has ever actually been demonstrated to actually have occurred.
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It has been demonstrated, even with the experiments done to date. But no matter how many experiments are done there will always be those screaming for more. The problem is that there are a lot of BIG financial interests at stake, quite apart from those that are simply skeptical.

Psi uncovers the true cause of disease because it shows that through toxic relationships nocebo effects can be created. When people understand this they can recover their health without the need of medical procedures and medicines in the vast number of cases. Hence the medical bubble bursts as it needs to because money is being moved vertically upwards and many people left in ruins. You only need to look at a country like the USA. It is in debt for many reasons but one of the biggest drains of money, both on personal and collective (government) level is disease.
 
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