Merged New telepathy test: which number did I write ?

[fromdownunder]

Perhaps fromdownunder (who is in Australia) and cullennz (who is in New Zealand) could give answers to the test as well. I have just repeated the target number.

Both fromdownunder and cullennz have participated in a previous test:

My post was

"I consulted the Book of Armaments.

Three."

*sigh* Do you understand anything or are you deliberately trying to be silly, or just being passive aggressive? Do you have any knowledge of popular culture at all?

Do you even understand what my reference to the Book of Armaments was, and that I was being sarcastic, and don't you understand that the Holy Hand Grenade was there to destroy the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog ? Have you never heard of Monty Python?

...And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O LORD, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the LORD did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... [At this point, the friar is urged by Brother Maynard to "skip a bit, brother"]... And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."​

Norm

 

[Drs_Res]

Perhaps fromdownunder (who is in Australia) and cullennz (who is in New Zealand) could give answers to the test as well. I have just repeated the target number.

Both fromdownunder and cullennz have participated in a previous test:

My post was

"I consulted the Book of Armaments.

Three."

*sigh* Do you understand anything or are you deliberately trying to be silly, or just being passive aggressive? Do you have any knowledge of popular culture at all?

Do you even understand what my reference to the Book of Armaments was, and that I was being sarcastic, and don't you understand that the Holy Hand Grenade was there to destroy the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog ? Have you never heard of Monty Python?

...And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O LORD, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the LORD did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... [At this point, the friar is urged by Brother Maynard to "skip a bit, brother"]... And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."​

Norm

Because it really should be seen..

https://youtu.be/ashgP4YMdJw

 

[Michel H]

My post was

"I consulted the Book of Armaments.

Three."

*sigh* Do you understand anything or are you deliberately trying to be silly, or just being passive aggressive? Do you have any knowledge of popular culture at all?

Do you even understand what my reference to the Book of Armaments was, and that I was being sarcastic, and don't you understand that the Holy Hand Grenade was there to destroy the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog ? Have you never heard of Monty Python?



Norm

Norm, you said recently:

I can say in all honesty that yes, the distance effect of telepathy is exactly the same from 20 inches away as it is from 20,000 miles away.

Norm

It turns out that I did yesterday some telepathy experiments with Australia, which seemed to confirm your assessment. So, I thought maybe you were some kind of expert in long distance telepathy, and a new answer by you would be valuable in this thread.

I am a French speaking citizen of Belgium, my culture is basically both Belgian and French. However, Britain is close, both geographically and in terms of culture, and the Monty Python comedy group is well known in Belgium too (William Shakespeare, Arthur Conan Doyle, Enid Blyton, J.K. Rowling and the Beatles are well known in my country too!).

In spite of having seen the Pythons several times on TV, I did not understand in a completely detailed way your

I consulted Consult the Book of Armaments.

Three.

Norm

answer of 2012, and in particular the link between number three and so-called
"Book of Armaments":
"King Arthur: Consult the Book of Armaments.
...
Cleric: And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. ..."
(from the 1975 film "Monty Python and the Holy Grail")

But I think I understood enough to understand that the answer you gave in 2012 was not credible and reliable, and you confirm this assessment now to me by explaining that it was "sarcastic".

I assume the same cannot be said about your post:

I can say in all honesty that yes, the distance effect of telepathy is exactly the same from 20 inches away as it is from 20,000 miles away.

Norm

 

[Michel H]

Because it really should be seen..

https://youtu.be/ashgP4YMdJw

Thank you, Drs_Res. I think I've already seen this video (perhaps because of this forum), but I think it was a good idea from you to remind us of it now.

 

[Loss Leader]

But I think I understood enough to understand that the answer you gave in 2012 was not credible and reliable, and you confirm this assessment now to me by explaining that it was "sarcastic".

I assume the same cannot be said about your post:

You assume incorrectly.

That post was sarcastic as well. He meant that the effect of telepathy is the same because they are both zero.

There is no effect at 20 inches and there is no effect at 20,000 miles. Zero equals zero. That's sarcasm.

Another way you can tell is that it is not possible for two people to be 20,000 miles away. The farthest distance you can be from another person on earth is 12,453.8 miles. And if you believe telepathy could pass through the earth, the farthest distance is only 7,917.5 miles.

I am sure the author of the post will agree with my interpretation and disagree with yours.

 

[Daylightstar]

Michel H, when will you finally post^{(how to)} the audio of abnormal and violent noises?
Or is that audio as non-existent as your claimed telepathy?

 

[DuvalHMFIC]

Wow, a real-life Sheldon Cooper!

 

[Michel H]

Michel H, when will you finally post^{(how to)} the audio of abnormal and violent noises?
Or is that audio as non-existent as your claimed telepathy?

Perhaps after you provide a (good) quality and honest answer in my current telepathy test. Try to avoid too much "sarcasm", try to be clear (though a little humor may be acceptable).

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Wow, a real-life Sheldon Cooper!

If it helps to keep that mental image, then yes. Just bear it in mind that Michel will take your posts strictly literally.

No matter how obvious you think your implied meaning may be, Michel will assess your post on what you actually wrote and not on what you expect everyone to interpret as your true meaning. It takes significant concentration to write in that style. It's only when you try it that you realise how often in normal conversation our meaning is implied rather than stated.

 

[Daylightstar]

Perhaps after you provide a (good) quality and honest answer in my current telepathy test. Try to avoid too much "sarcasm", try to be clear (though a little humor may be acceptable).

Forget about telepathy, you have no telepathy. The question is whether you do have audio of abnormal and violent noises.
If you have such audio, it would be the only real thing in relation to your claims, something which you could easily share and demonstrate.

It starts to look like you do not actually have such audio.

Having said that, it may be possible that you actually did make a recording during an episode but that no abnormal or violent noises are actually in the actual recording.
You in your situation however may think or believe that even though no such noises appear in such a recording, the simultaneity of the episode and the recording basically means to you that by pathological association or perceived correlation the noises are in the recording, even though they are not.

Post^{(how to)} the audio of what you claimed are abnormal and violent noises, Michel H.

 

[Michel H]

You assume incorrectly.

That post was sarcastic as well. He meant that the effect of telepathy is the same because they are both zero.

There is no effect at 20 inches and there is no effect at 20,000 miles. Zero equals zero. That's sarcasm.

Another way you can tell is that it is not possible for two people to be 20,000 miles away. The farthest distance you can be from another person on earth is 12,453.8 miles. And if you believe telepathy could pass through the earth, the farthest distance is only 7,917.5 miles.

I am sure the author of the post will agree with my interpretation and disagree with yours.

Actually, fromdownunder, when he said: "I can say in all honesty that yes, the distance effect of telepathy is exactly the same from 20 inches away as it is from 20,000 miles away.", he was not writing about the "effect of telepathy", he was writing about the "distance effect of telepathy". If there was no such thing as telepathy, there would really be no "distance effect of telepathy", and fromdownunder's sentence would become meaningless.

Imagine you are studying a so-called "location effect in (paranormal) levitation". If this effect were real, you could try to levitate in NY, and try to levitate again in LA, near the San Gabriel Mountains, let's say, and examine if there is any difference. But, if there is no such thing as levitation (which I believe to be generally true), there is really no location effect in levitation.

 

[Dave Rogers]

No matter how obvious you think your implied meaning may be, Michel will assess your post on what you actually wrote and not on what you expect everyone to interpret as your true meaning.

Which is, if you think about it, quite ironic. Michel claims to be telepathic, yet his over-literal interpretation of everything said to him suggests that he is in fact less than normally aware of the mental states of others. I would expand further on deficiencies of theory of mind, but I would rather not fall further into the trap of attempting long range diagnoses than I have already.

Dave

 

[Loss Leader]

Actually, fromdownunder, when he said: "I can say in all honesty that yes, the distance effect of telepathy is exactly the same from 20 inches away as it is from 20,000 miles away.", he was not writing about the "effect of telepathy", he was writing about the "distance effect of telepathy". If there was no such thing as telepathy, there would really be no "distance effect of telepathy", and fromdownunder's sentence would become meaningless.

Imagine you are studying a so-called "location effect in (paranormal) levitation". If this effect were real, you could try to levitate in NY, and try to levitate again in LA, near the San Gabriel Mountains, let's say, and examine if there is any difference. But, if there is no such thing as levitation (which I believe to be generally true), there is really no location effect in levitation.

The irony of your post is that it demonstrates one of the greatest flaws in your own tests. Your tests, as many people have explained, presume that you do have telepathy. Otherwise, there would be no reason to assume anyone was lying or teasing you.

The writer does not now and never has believed you have telepathy. He was sarcastically stating that there is no such thing.

Incidentally, your inability to understand the meaning and intentions of others are both consistent with a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

 

[fromdownunder]

Actually, fromdownunder, when he said: "I can say in all honesty that yes, the distance effect of telepathy is exactly the same from 20 inches away as it is from 20,000 miles away.", he was not writing about the "effect of telepathy", he was writing about the "distance effect of telepathy". If there was no such thing as telepathy, there would really be no "distance effect of telepathy", and fromdownunder's sentence would become meaningless.

Well, no, I was just making fun of you, as I have on every post I have made on your ludicrous idea that you project thoughts, and everybody on the planet somehow hears "42" every day. I do actually think of "42" quite often, when asked "what is 6 x 9" especially when I am doing Math, in Base 13.

Loss Leader's interpretation of what I said (and have said all along) was 100% correct. I can't help it if you are so totally innocent of humour that you cannot understand this.

Norm

 

[Michel H]

Well, no, I was just making fun of you, as I have on every post I have made on your ... idea that you project thoughts, and everybody on the planet somehow hears "42" every day. I do actually think of "42" quite often, ...

Norm

(Warning: I have removed some parts from fromdownunder's post; fromdownunder is a man who, about three months ago, said:

But are you certain that somehow you have not thought about New York at all since you started this test, awake or asleep? It may have leaked out of your brain and spread around the entire planet without you even knowing it? Don't you ever think about anything except the numbers 1 - 4 or the cities 1 - 4.

How is it that New York came into my thoughts when reading this thread? Is somebody else spreading the mental word who does not want publicity but wants us to think about New York, ...
Norm

)
I should perhaps say here a few words of the experiment I did to investigate telepathy with the country where fromdownunder lives, namely Australia.

Well, no, perhaps I should let you try to guess it. Let me just say one word, as a hint for you: "cam". Can anybody try to guess and describe the method I used to study telepathy with Australia?

 

[Michel H]

The irony of your post is that it demonstrates one of the greatest flaws in your own tests. Your tests, as many people have explained, presume that you do have telepathy. Otherwise, there would be no reason to assume anyone was lying or teasing you.

The writer does not now and never has believed you have telepathy. He was sarcastically stating that there is no such thing.

Incidentally, your inability to understand the meaning and intentions of others are both consistent with a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

Clearly you are choosing to ignore the subtlety in fromdownunder's posts (look at the latest one). I think you should try to learn to read "between the lines" yourself. This is something I have had to learn a lot in my telepathy testing, I was not doing this myself at the beginning.

 

[MikeG]

Clearly you are choosing to ignore the subtlety in fromdownunder's posts (look at the latest one). I think you should try to learn to read "between the lines" yourself. This is something I have had to learn a lot in my telepathy testing, I was not doing this myself at the beginning.

Yep, that's subtle:

.....I was just making fun of you, as I have on every post I have made..........

 

[Daylightstar]

... the method I used to study telepathy with Australia?

You are doing no such thing, you are running a fantasy.
Post the audio, if you have it, Michel H.

 

[Michel H]

You are doing no such thing, you are running a fantasy.
Post the audio, if you have it, Michel H.

I have got some pictures, that I could post, in connection with the scientific testing I did with Australia. If you can give the correct answer to this question:

...
I should perhaps say here a few words of the experiment I did to investigate telepathy with the country where fromdownunder lives, namely Australia.

Well, no, perhaps I should let you try to guess it. Let me just say one word, as a hint for you: "cam". Can anybody try to guess and describe the method I used to study telepathy with Australia?

I would also consider more favorably a possibility of posting some of the audio files of violent noises I have (they are .wav files, recorded with Audacity).

 

[Loss Leader]

Clearly you are choosing to ignore the subtlety in fromdownunder's posts (look at the latest one).

Do you mean the post that said he was making fun of you? That he'd been making fun of you in every post addressing your telepathy?

Do you mean the same post where he said this:

Loss Leader's interpretation of what I said (and have said all along) was 100% correct.

I was 100% correct in interpreting his posts. That's the most correct it's possible to be.