I think this is greatly exaggerated. Some members did provide some useful (and welcome) explanations to help me understand some colloquial English. However, I didn't have to revise any "credibility rating".
Merged New telepathy test: which number did I write ?
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turingtest
Mistral, mistral wind...
You certainly are if you're discarding answers that may indicate otherwise. Let's try an analogy, nothing complicated, ok? A guy builds in his backyard shed, from spare parts cobbled together from here and there, a radio transmitter which he hopes will transmit. In order to test it, he calls everyone in his town's phone book who has a receiver and tells them "at 0800 tomorrow, I will be broadcasting a signal consisting of a given number from 1 to 3 [he has to do this to differentiate his signal from other possible transmissions]; please tell me what signal you received." Would you say he was fairly testing his transmitter if he simply discarded as "not interesting" any responses of "I don't know, I heard nothing at all"? Of course not; if he only includes in his analysis the responses indicating reception, he's just taking for granted what he's supposedly testing- that he's transmitting. Now he could include them in his analysis and just say "well, those who didn't get what I sent must have faulty receivers, or they're lying, etc."; but that would still be taking the transmission for granted and assuming a fault outside it. Which is what you're doing
Either way, with or without analyzing all the results fairly and honestly, it's a gigantic game of begging-the-question you're playing here; you're not testing yourself or your "telepathy," you're testing everyone else.
turingtest
Mistral, mistral wind...
Once, as a kid of about seven or so, I bought, right after Christmas, a quart of buttermilk under the mistaken impression that it was the same thing as the egg nog I had taken a huge liking to. "What the hell is this?" describes my reaction perfectly after taking that first huge swig. (I was a bit of a dork at that age)
I am not discarding anything (and I could not do such a thing because I cannot change your posts). Read for example what I said about member DeadFish's answer in this analysis: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=9516155#post9516155
Daylightstar
Philosopher
Could you link to that forum please?
(Or rather the pages or posts this praise can be found on or in)
On this page: http://forum.doctissimo.fr/psycholo...n/telepathie-nombre-feuille-sujet_38044_1.htm
Post by hsf:
(minor corrections made, his answer was correct)
I also got many, many stars on Yahoo Answers for my test questions.
Loss Leader
I would save the receptionist., Moderator
You mean where you first accepted "I don't know" as a possible valid answer but then went on in the same sentence to decide he was not credible and to discard his answer?
Is that what you mean? Because that's exactly what you did. You discounted his answer.
DeadFish's answer was perfectly valid (and I encourage you to answer "I don't know" if you really think I don't communicate anything via ESP), but I didn't find it credible, serious-sounding, reliable.
turingtest
Mistral, mistral wind...
Sorry, what? Did you not say this:
So are you not, indeed, discarding "I don't know" as an answer to be included in the statistical analysis? Any other analysis beyond that of the cold numbers is irrelevant, isn't it?
Loss Leader
I would save the receptionist., Moderator
The words are not the same, and they ain't got the same meaning. "Valid" means that he abided by the rules of the test, "not credible" means not trustworthy.
Daylightstar
Philosopher
I wouldn't call it, as you did, a medical site, that's misleading. It's a forum where members of the public talk about psychology.
So, it appears you got 13 guesses by the following posters:
Pomme@Noire
Lauriane1989
Maryyy8
gnone
chat ira mieux
Profil supprimé
-.-Megane-.-
hsf
larousse49
Stingray96
Angelite
mathilde500
bleusaphir
of which 3 were correctly guessed, according to you.
13 responses.
3 correct guesses.
The author of your claimed first correct guess was subjected to your reading his profile and stating that hsf is a computer engineer and that hsf's answer seemed to you nice, modest and original.
Sorry, but that is a pathetic performance.
Where's the praise, Michel H?
It's not really a medical forum, it's a health and wellbeing forum for laypeople. The subforum 'clairvoyance and divination' is where your 'test' was posted, and having read that thread I see very little praise for your tests but a great deal of concern for your health, and several people urging you to see a professional. And you yourself admit that this test was a failure with only 3 right answers out of 13.
I see that on that forum, you linked to one of Loss Leader's posts here as 'evidence' of your abilities, pointing out that he is a moderator, ignoring the fact that LL was not being serious. This seems to me slightly dishonest, since LL has explained to you repeatedly that he was not serious. It is the same problem as when you quote Ashles' sarcastic remark about your test being 'robustly controlled'.
Once again, a moderator has no special abilities to be more sceptical or less humorous than anyone else; moderators are merely chosen for their willingness and ability to understand and enforce the MA. Outside the forum management sub-forum, what a moderator or an admin posts is just them posting as an ordinary member unless their words are enclosed in moderator, edit or information boxes.
Read the post that I provided.
This is a video (of a medical nature), hosted by doctissimo (doct-issimo), in which Professor Richard Delorme, a child psychiatrist, explains autism:
http://videos.doctissimo.fr/psychol...s&svc_partner=Edito_droite&svc_position=autre
I hope you can watch it where you are.
I did not exactly say the test was a failure (please don't misreport), and I have already mentioned, a few hours ago (in post 2260) that results in English are generally superior to results in French (not talking here about comments).
I see nothing dishonest about suggesting to "take a look" on an answer given here (I did not say it was Loss Leader's last word). It seems to me that your own reporting is biased and dishonest, because, for example, you don't mention people asking eagerly for the correct number, and complaining when it is not given fast enough (according to them).
Daylightstar
Philosopher
I have. Where the praise?
..... I hope you will indicate the relevance, else I will not waste my time.
I am sorry if you feel I was biased or misreported anything, I did not intend to do so.
What does people asking for the number before you were ready to reveal it have to do with whether your tests validate your beliefs?
I did not undertake nor intend to report everything on that page to this forum; you gave the link and anyone can read it, using google translate if they are not fluent enough in French to read it in the original.
If you did not intend Loss Leader's comment to boost support for your claimed ability, why did you link to it on that forum and include the information that he is a moderator, yet omit the information that he was not being honest?
Michel, I understand that you believe everyone can hear your thoughts and that they lie about it. I know that nothing anyone says here or on any other forum will help you to understand that this belief is part of your illness. I understand that the hostile voices you hear are disturbing to you and that you would like them to stop.
What everybody here and in that doctissimo forum is trying to explain to you is that the only way you can get the voices to stop is to get help for your illness because the voices are not real, they originate in your brain.
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Loss Leader
I would save the receptionist., Moderator
This post means:
Had I asked this question myself, the number would have been a "2", with a 80% probability.
But, since this question was posed by you, as a thought out test, the correct number must certainly be the most unlikely, namely the "1", with a probability of 60%.
(and the correct number was indeed a "1" for that test)
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