New telepathy test, the sequel.

[Jack by the hedge]

Actually the die I carry with me all the time is a d20.

I had an inkling. Guess I read your mind.

Even easier to get a 1-4 answer from a 20 sided die than a 6.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I've got a one-sided one.

It's round.

Actually, after looking at it, I see that it is a sphere.

 

[arthwollipot]

I had an inkling. Guess I read your mind.

Michel, please note: This is a joke. Jack by the hedge did not really read my mind. He just knows that I play Dungeons and Dragons, which uses twenty sided dice extensively.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Michel, please note: This is a joke. Jack by the hedge did not really read my mind. He just knows that I play Dungeons and Dragons, which uses twenty sided dice extensively.

Michel would, of course, insist that your denial has no credibility, and that Jack by the hedge really did read your mind because he clearly was not being ironic when he said so. Michel's responses are chosen by rolling a D1.

Dave

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Michel would, of course, insist that your denial has no credibility, and that Jack by the hedge really did read your mind because he clearly was not being ironic when he said so. Michel's responses are chosen by rolling a D1.

Dave

Exactly. This is my sincere face.

 

[JayUtah]

Michel, please note: This is a joke. Jack by the hedge did not really read my mind. He just knows that I play Dungeons and Dragons, which uses twenty sided dice extensively.

And they're less pointy in your pocket than a D4.

 

[Dave Rogers]

And they're less pointy in your pocket than a D4.

And, unlike a D4, they actually roll.

Dave

 

[sanders777]

I've spent all day long reading this thread

 

[Michel H]

Michel, please note: This is a joke. Jack by the hedge did not really read my mind. He just knows that I play Dungeons and Dragons, which uses twenty sided dice extensively.

I wonder how you can be so sure about this.

This doesn't seem very rigorous to me.

I guess it may be difficult to many of you to get used to my high standards of scientific research.

 

[JayUtah]

I wonder how you can be so sure about this.

This doesn't seem very rigorous to me.

As predicted.

You, as a participant in your own study, reserve the right to judge whether people allegedly reading your mind have actually done so and have answered honestly. You reserve the right for that to be the final judgment regardless of what interloping people have to say. So Artwollipot has merely applied your methodology. He has declared, as the sole arbiter of such matters, that the answer the other party gave was insincere and not the product of telepathy. You yourself have admitted that you are unable to determine the criteria by which one can discern messages received by telepathy from thoughts arising by some other means. Hence in your method it falls to the judgment of the experimenter.

Thanks for confirming that you don't believe your method displays rigor.

I guess it may be difficult to many of you to get used to my high standards of scientific research.

Nope. You finally admitted that your "standards" require you to get the predetermined answer in order for the results to be considered reliable. Now you've admitted that your method, when employed by others, does not produce consistent or reliable results and is thus irreproducible.

You have no credibility whatsoever as a scientist in this field. You may demonstrate otherwise at your leisure by publishing your results in a respected journal.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I wonder how you can be so sure about this.

This doesn't seem very rigorous to me.

I guess it may be difficult to many of you to get used to my high standards of scientific research.

The curious thing is that if anyone other than Michel had written the above I would take it for a continuation of the running joke, but instead I wonder if he is completely serious.

Michel, for removal of doubt, my remark about mind reading was indeed a joke. I knew previously that arthwollipot was a Dungeons and Dragons player and, from experience of my own kids playing it enthusiastically, I suspected he might often carry a d20 die in his pocket. So it was an educated guess. No more extraordinary than guessing a smoker might carry a cigarette lighter. Pretending it was instead a magical ability was just amusing because it was so apt.

I hope this is clear now.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I've spent all day long reading this thread

How many points has it lowered your IQ?

Dave

 

[Crossbow]

I wonder how you can be so sure about this.

This doesn't seem very rigorous to me.

I guess it may be difficult to many of you to get used to my high standards of scientific research.

You are delusional.

Please get some help.

 

[Lothian]

I guess it may be difficult to many of you to get used to my high standards of scientific research.

Correct. We don't accept that you should be trying to set standards whilst you are high.

 

[abaddon]

I've spent all day long reading this thread

The original thread will entertain you for another day, in that case.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I've spent all day long reading this thread

I hate to tell you this, but there's at least a couple more to get you fully up to speed. Theres about a decade of this to wade through, based on an utter failure to recognise that random people on Yahoo Answers have a tendency to take the Mickey.

 

[abaddon]

I hate to tell you this, but there's at least a couple more to get you fully up to speed. Theres about a decade of this to wade through, based on an utter failure to recognise that random people on Yahoo Answers have a tendency to take the Mickey.

Well let us not forget Michel's other claims. We can all remember those claims, can't we? Heck, we don't even need to remember. We can simply go back through the trail of threads and link them because they do not disappear.

 

[arthwollipot]

I wonder how you can be so sure about this.

This doesn't seem very rigorous to me.

I guess it may be difficult to many of you to get used to my high standards of scientific research.

I'm sure about it because nobody can read anybody's mind. Every time someone has claimed to be able to read minds, it has been found to be false.

In the words of the great philosopher Tim Minchin:

Throughout history, every mystery ever solved has turned out to be not magic.

 

[abaddon]

I'm sure about it because nobody can read anybody's mind. Every time someone has claimed to be able to read minds, it has been found to be false.

In the words of the great philosopher Tim Minchin:

Throughout history, every mystery ever solved has turned out to be not magic.

Yeah. I like Tim.

 

[Michel H]

I'm sure about it because nobody can read anybody's mind. Every time someone has claimed to be able to read minds, it has been found to be false.

In the words of the great philosopher Tim Minchin:

Throughout history, every mystery ever solved has turned out to be not magic.

Telepathy doesn't need to be magic, because it might occur via the exchange of electromagnetic waves (even at great distances). This may be why Einstein wrote a preface for Upton Sinclair's book "Mental Radio" in 1930:

I have read the book of Upton Sinclair with great interest and am convinced that the same deserves the most earnest consideration, not only of the laity, but also of the psychologists by profession. The results of the telepathic experiments carefully and plainly set forth in this book stand surely far beyond those which a nature investigator holds to be thinkable. On the other hand, it is out of the question in the case of so conscientious an observer and writer as Upton Sinclair that he is carrying on a conscious deception of the reading world; his good faith and dependability are not to be doubted. So if somehow the facts here set forth rest not upon telepathy, but upon some unconscious hypnotic influence from person to person, this also would be of high psychological interest. In no case should the psychologically interested circles pass over this book heedlessly.

Links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Radio, https://www.gutenberg.org/files/63693/63693-h/63693-h.htm

It is also possible that telepathy relies on still undiscovered laws of physics or psychology.