One of the things that I would like to do more is to travel, and see if these mysterious voices (who speak generally French, which is my native language) change as I go far away.
New telepathy test, the sequel.
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RoboTimbo
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Again, you failed to answer a question that goes directly to testing your claimed ability and choose instead to dishonestly go on a tangent.
If I go far away, or in a submarine, and I find that the voices in my head go away, this would confirm their external origin, so this is a very honest test about the voices.
RoboTimbo
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No, it isn't any sort of test at all. You've been told what a test looks like. You simply run away from anything like a real test. Note how you go off topic.
It is a test of a different kind, but it is as respectable as an ESP test, in which I write and circle a number or a word on a paper, and I ask people around the world what I wrote. I was replying to you, who expressed an interest for that side of telepathy:
RoboTimbo
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Which is to say that it isn't a test at all.
No, it definitely deserves no respect.
And then apply your biased "credibility ratings" so that answers which you know are incorrect rate lower than answers you know are correct.
I expressed an interest in you taking a fair test of your claimed abilities. You express an interest in running away from such a test.
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As I recall, it's Michel's surmise that the voices he hears are a form of radio emission produced by the electrical activity in the brains of the people he hears and somehow received in his own brain. Hence the idea of going underwater in a submarine to get away from radio emissions.
This experiment could be done much more simply and cheaply by building a Faraday cage to exclude radio waves. Perhaps some light timber frame, about the size of a wardrobe, supporting a wire mesh screen (chickenwire seems ideal) which could be grounded by linking it to metalwork like a central heating radiator or water tap.
Make one side hinged to form a door. Don't forget mesh top and bottom too. Test it by carrying a portable radio into the cage to see if its reception cuts off.
If the radio loses reception yet he still hears voices when inside the cage then the original surmise was incorrect. Yes?
This experiment could be done much more simply and cheaply by building a Faraday cage to exclude radio waves. Perhaps some light timber frame, about the size of a wardrobe, supporting a wire mesh screen (chickenwire seems ideal) which could be grounded by linking it to metalwork like a central heating radiator or water tap.
Make one side hinged to form a door. Don't forget mesh top and bottom too. Test it by carrying a portable radio into the cage to see if its reception cuts off.
If the radio loses reception yet he still hears voices when inside the cage then the original surmise was incorrect. Yes?
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Michel just supposes the transmissions are electromagnetic. He doesn't claim they definitely are. A Faraday cage would just exclude one kind of transmission. It would still leave Michel with an infinite number of possible other forms to which he can redirect his beliefs.
If the transmissions travel through some immaterial aether or arise from "quantum" anything, the Faraday cage experiment proves nothing that excludes his beliefs.
Instead, we could ask Michel what evidence he would accept that would prove to him that he has no telepathic powers. Sadly, he has already answered. Within the last two days or so, he has reiterated that he is here to show us that we are wrong. He is not here to find ways of convincing himself that he is wrong. He cannot be convinced of such a thing.
Although the principle is right, I doubt your method would work, though I have used myself the aluminium foil hat method (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat), and applying an electric field of various frequencies to my brain. The method I am particularly interested in these days is going into the Channel Tunnel, between England and France (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel), though I should visit my dentist(s) too
. Distance effects have, as far as I know, never been found in telepathy. This means that getting rid of these waves is hard. Even if your system can attenuate the waves, reduce their intensity, you won't be able to eliminate them completely (even for a portable radio, or a smartphone nowadays).
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Why do you doubt a Faraday cage would work?
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Michel, would you be amenable to the following sort of test?
You broadcast a number. Recipients are asked to respond in two parts. The first part is saying whatever they like, the second part is the number and nothing else. You can see the first part. The second part is encoded. Based on the first part, you decide which answers are credible. Then the credible answers have the second part decoded and everyone can see if they match what you sent by more than chance. (Any second part with more than the number is automatically excluded, no matter what it says.)
Would this work for you?
You broadcast a number. Recipients are asked to respond in two parts. The first part is saying whatever they like, the second part is the number and nothing else. You can see the first part. The second part is encoded. Based on the first part, you decide which answers are credible. Then the credible answers have the second part decoded and everyone can see if they match what you sent by more than chance. (Any second part with more than the number is automatically excluded, no matter what it says.)
Would this work for you?
No, this is exaggerated. You have the right to present any argument, to try to prove anything, even against telepathy. You could even say the world "schizophrenia" a few times, I won't be extremely furious.
However, I think that the evidence for my assumed telepathy is overwhelming, and most of the arguments that I see here are a little bit on the weak side, I am afraid (even saying that I have seen just one argument is perhaps a very optimistic view of things). Maybe more the story of the strong trying to crush the weak. Perhaps you are trying too hard to prove I am not telepathic, and you should use your energies for more useful purposes. Don't make Randi's mistake, who for a while expressed some skepticism with respect to climate change, if I recollect correctly.
Regarding the mechanism of ESP, the non-electromagnetic interactions don't seem to be good candidates. The weak and strong interactions are short-ranged, the gravitational interaction is very weak, and almost unaffected by mental processes, only the electromagnetic interaction (like for radio waves) remains. Quantum phenomena are good for creating a lot of confusion, they probably don't bring much new for telepathy. The real cause for quantum is probably the existence of fluctuating background fields, called zero-point fields (see for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_electrodynamics).
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I've previously suggested Michel simply thinks of his phone number and wishes that anyone, anywhere in the world, who telepathically receives it should call him.
This does not seem to be a satisfactory experiment though I do not know whether that is because a phone number is too complex to send telepathically or because it fails to exclude the possible outcome that everyone on the planet gets the message yet somehow conspires to ignore it or for some other reason.
This does not seem to be a satisfactory experiment though I do not know whether that is because a phone number is too complex to send telepathically or because it fails to exclude the possible outcome that everyone on the planet gets the message yet somehow conspires to ignore it or for some other reason.
I don't think it would be powerful enough, for a homemade one. Now, if you used a superconducting one, this could be different, but very expensive.
This method would be similar to what we have already tried here, and unnecessarily complicated, in my opinion.
RoboTimbo
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Although the principle is right, I doubt your method would work, though I have used myself the aluminium foil hat method (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat), and applying an electric field of various frequencies to my brain. The method I am particularly interested in these days is going into the Channel Tunnel, between England and France (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel), though I should visit my dentist(s) too
Distance effects have, as far as I know, never been found in telepathy. This means that getting rid of these waves is hard. Even if your system can attenuate the waves, reduce their intensity, you won't be able to eliminate them completely (even for a portable radio, or a smartphone nowadays).
I'm thinking my phone number at you, Michel. Please call me and we can discuss your telepathy. If you don't call me, we'll know that YOU know you're being deliberately dishonest.
I am not receiving anything.
RoboTimbo
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Your post is not credible. I'm projecting my phone number at you. Call me. Are you admitting that you know that telepathy doesn't exist and you're inventing a super power for yourself?
Telepathy is not necessarily a symmetrical process. Even if I have myself a tendency to involuntarily communicate thoughts, ideas and perceptions to others, you probably don't have the same property (luckily for you).
RoboTimbo
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No, the problem must lie with you. I'm projecting but you aren't receiving. I suspect you have no telepathic ability.
Also, your post is not credible. You spend a lot of time and posts trying to convince others that telepathy exists and then say that it doesn't.