New telepathy test, the sequel.

Can we chain this thread to Jabba's 'Proof of immortality' thread, drive a stake through its heart and send them both back to hell?
 
RoboTimbo said:
Why are you so fearful of a valid test with King of the Americas? He believes in telepathy and that he can hear others' thoughts. You say others can hear your thoughts. It should be super simple for you to project your thoughts and him to receive them, shouldn't it?

Unless you're both just fraudulently claiming it, of course.
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King of the Americas is welcome to participate in this current test, RoboTimbo, like all members of this forum, including you.
 
Michel H said:
Yes, I would say so. I think that, in the context of this post by calwaterbear, ESP (= extra-sensory perception) and telepathy are essentially synonymous. Ignorant parapsychologists imagine various kinds of ESP, but, when you add two non-existent breads to a real bread, you still end up with one bread.
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You've failed to answer the question. Assuming that Calwaterbear was right, how do we know it's because you have the ability to broadcast your thoughts and not that he has the singular ability to read the mind of someone who cannot broadcast thoughts?

How does your test account for the chance that you are not special but that your subject is? After all, someone with real telepathic power would probably be very excited to show it off. And you yourself talk about credibility. If you believe Calwaterbear was credible when he said 2, why shouldn't you believe he was credible when he said he (not you) had ESP?
 
Loss Leader said:
If you believe Calwaterbear was credible when he said 2, why shouldn't you believe he was credible when he said he (not you) had ESP?
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More to the point, why was calwaterbear's post saying,

calwaterbear said:
wrong oh! I do indeed have ESP, and know for a fact that he wrote 2!
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any more credible than the post he replied to by RandomElement, saying,

RandomElement said:
As I DO have ESP, the answer is unequivocably 3.
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Your excuse was that RandomElement showed arrogance by using the word "unequivocably," yet you conveniently failed to note the arrogance shown in calwaterbear's "wrong oh!" and "know for a fact". All of which makes it perfectly clear that you're rejecting answers purely on the grounds that they didn't give the number you want.

Let me also remind you that both of these answers were given in a test in which the choice was between 1, 2, 3 and 4 (in effect, the same as this test) and the result was 23% agreeing with your choice, a number clearly indistinguishable from random chance before you started to apply your dishonest and unscientific process of rejecting 'wrong' answers based on a series of purely subjective judgments.

No wonder nobody's playing any more.

Dave
 
TheSapient said:
You keep posting that quote from calwaterbear. While it was obviously a joke, you seem to believe it to be true. Given that, it is important to note that he does NOT say you have telepathy. He says he has ESP.

Why is it so important to you that we believe calwaterbear has ESP? If he does have ESP, do you think that makes your claims of telepathy any more likely?
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Indeed, calwaterbear hasn't been active for some time, so it would be unlikely to get a response to the question of whether he/she was joking or being sarcastic (which we know Michel is incapable of understanding). But IIRC, a little time with calwaterbear's posts will tell you pretty clearly that he/she in no way believes in ESP/Telepathy or any other sort of woo.
 
Michel H said:
King of the Americas is welcome to participate in this current test, RoboTimbo, like all members of this forum, including you.
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You're a thought criminal. I just reported you to the Miniluv because of your constant crimethink!
 
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Random Element says s/he has ESP and the answer is 3. calwaterbear says s/he has ESP and the answer is 2. The answer Michel H was looking for was 2. He therefore ignores Random Element's claim to have ESP but takes clawaterbear's claim to have ESP as concrete proof.

I honestly believe Michel should keep brining this example up, as it's as clear as an example could be of his methodology in these "tests".
 
Michel H said:
You mean: 24 = 1x2x3x4 = 6x4 ?
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If Michel picked 4, he'll claim you saw 4 six times. If he picked 3, he'll claim you saw 3 eight times. If he picked 2, it's 2 twelve times. Or 1 a staggering 24 times.

When your entire proof is confirmation bias, everything is a hit.
 
Loss Leader said:
If Michel picked 4, he'll claim you saw 4 six times. If he picked 3, he'll claim you saw 3 eight times. If he picked 2, it's 2 twelve times. Or 1 a staggering 24 times.

When your entire proof is confirmation bias, everything is a hit.
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Not true, I have better arguments ;).
 
RoboTimbo said:
But no arguments for why King of the Americas and you refuse to do a valid test.
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Strictly speaking, Michel doesn't have to excuse KotA's refusal. But yes, Michel has no excuse for refusing to participate in a valid test.
 
Loss Leader said:
If Michel picked 4, he'll claim you saw 4 six times. If he picked 3, he'll claim you saw 3 eight times. If he picked 2, it's 2 twelve times. Or 1 a staggering 24 times.

When your entire proof is confirmation bias, everything is a hit.
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Of course. I was just making a joke, and running my own little demonstration.

Bias has no limits :)
 
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