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PartSkeptic said:
Another point.

Flight or fight reaction. She was stopped from fleeing. What did she do to fight back? Scratch his face? What was she doing with her hands?
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Are you really that uninformed about sexual assault? Really?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ms-dont-fight-or-yell/?utm_term=.de9c298711de

https://www.jimhopper.com/sexual-assault-and-the-brain/

https://www.google.com/search?q=sex...ome..69i57.12823j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

There dozens, hundreds of web pages, reports, and even formal studies on why women often don't physically fight back when being sexually assaulted. I could very easily make a post full of nothing but links supporting that. It has been widely discussed.

I'll settle for the google search results.
 
Bob001 said:
Lawyers are largely technicians. They learn how to apply the laws to serve their clients. The Supreme Court ultimately interprets the Constitution itself to determine whether any particular law meets the Constitution's requirements. Historians and political scientists would be well-equipped to help understand the Founders' intentions, and apply them to contemporary issues.

ETA: I note that a failing of our political system is that political office is largely considered a career step for lawyers. A large majority of legislators are lawyers. But lawyers know how to apply the laws as they are. They don't necessarily know more than anybody else about what the laws should be, in a complex, multi-cultural society that aspires to equality and justice for all.
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That's not actually true, well not specifically for the US Congress. It could be worldwide for all I know.

https://www.quora.com/How-many-of-the-United-States-current-senators-and-congressmen-are-lawyers

A minority of representative and a slim majority of senators are in the legal profession.
 
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autumn1971 said:
At this point can we as a nation simply confront the reality that if Trump wants someone in a position of power that fact alone is enough to confirm beyond the shadow of a doubt that said person is a criminal scumbag?
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I don't think it confirms it. It does raise my suspicion level, though. Trump is desperate to get this guy on the Supreme Court and the Senate is desperate to do it ASAP, although I'm not sure why. Because of the "dual sovereignty" case to be held in October?

I've never actually been thrilled with this whole concept; I understand the double jeopardy argument. But if it's behind the rush to confirm Kavanaugh, it's at the very least unseemly.

How convenient that Kavanaugh was all for investigating Bill Clinton, but through that experience came to believe it was too distracting to subject presidents to excessive scrutiny. It's Trump who is making it a distraction. What, is fending off investigators going to get in the way of his tweeting or golf games?
 
Remember when people figured out the 9/11 was all one gigantic hoax because when Mark Bingham called his mom, he used his last name? "Hi mom, this is Mark Bingham"?
That is what all you anomaly hunters sound like right now.
 
My grandfather died in a commercial airliner crash when I was 7 years old. About a year later, my family moved out of the city to suburban NJ where two of the people who lived on the same block were professional pilots (small craft I believe). Both ended up dying in separate crashes several years apart. Yet, in 2000, I was able to overcome my fear and fly to Las Vegas and back for a friend's wedding.
 
surrogate said:
My grandfather died in a commercial airliner crash when I was 7 years old. About a year later, my family moved out of the city to suburban NJ where two of the people who lived on the same block were professional pilots (small craft I believe). Both ended up dying in separate crashes several years apart. Yet, in 2000, I was able to overcome my fear and fly to Las Vegas and back for a friend's wedding.
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Would your flying anxiety have been aggravated if the flight was to attend something that was also personally stressful?
 
johnny karate said:
"Bizarre" is pretty strong word considering that your criticism comes after another poster provided a reference to a study that addresses all this.

Do often declare things that you know little or nothing about to be "bizarre" before taking the time to educate yourself?
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We can add to the information that makes it "bizarre" Like: 5 witnesses alleged by her to be there have all denied it. Also, two other men claim they may have been who she was speaking of in her statement. Add that to flying claims vs actions. Yeah, I'd say this entire thing is pretty bizarre.
 
River said:
We can add to the information that makes it "bizarre" Like: 5 witnesses alleged by her to be there have all denied it. Also, two other men claim they may have been who she was speaking of in her statement. Add that to flying claims vs actions. Yeah, I'd say this entire thing is pretty bizarre.
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Based on the one chunk of research presented, the flying aspect adds nothing.
 
River said:
We can add to the information that makes it "bizarre" Like: 5 witnesses alleged by her to be there have all denied it. Also, two other men claim they may have been who she was speaking of in her statement. Add that to flying claims vs actions. Yeah, I'd say this entire thing is pretty bizarre.
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You could have just answered my question with a “yes”, since that seems to be the case.
 
She claims Leland had health troubles and probably would not have remembered the party because it was unremarkable.

Oof, throwing her under the bus right off the bat?
 
Another account of life at elite prep schools:
I don’t know if Ford’s story is true — Kavanaugh vehemently denies her account. But I do know that during the same time and in similar schools, rich white boys got younger girls drunk and insisted that they sexually service them. I know that no one ever told them it was wrong to do so. And I know girls never learned that they were valuable enough to say no, accepting the shame and repercussions for themselves.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...6dd_story.html?tid=a_inl_manual&noredirect=on
 
I'm glad she had the chance to say her peace. Also, that it was not a badgering. Lets see what happens next. (gets pop corn)
 
River said:
We can add to the information that makes it "bizarre" Like: 5 witnesses alleged by her to be there have all denied it.
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Yes, in general we should automatically take the word of people who might have been complicit in a crime (either knew about it ahead of time or herd about it later and didn't report it) at their word.
Also, two other men claim they may have been who she was speaking of in her statement.
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As has been discussed... since the claims by the 2 men may be contradictory (and I do not believe there was any prior reveal of the information in the past, like Ford's talk with the therapist) their claims should be viewed with more skepticism than Ford's.

Perhaps if one (or both) end up getting charged yet they stick to their story. Or they produce an eye-witness who says "yeah they told me years ago they molestered a girl in high school".
Add that to flying claims vs actions.
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Not really.

Another poster has given statistics that have shown that it is not uncommon for people with a fear of flying to still fly. (Their anxiety may depend on the purpose of the trip... going on vacation won't be as stressful as going to testify in a senate hearing, so it is natural for someone to be better of flying in one situation but not the other.)
Yeah, I'd say this entire thing is pretty bizarre.
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Errr.. not really. Nothing that has been described about the situation (either what happened to Ford, what Kavanaugh has been accused of, or what has happened in the aftermath) is really that far out of the ordinary.
 
River said:
I'm glad she had the chance to say her peace. Also, that it was not a badgering. Lets see what happens next. (gets pop corn)
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We should not look for politics to provide a catharsis like the medium of film. We will be disappointed.
 
ahhell said:
To be fair though, they are significantly over represented in both the house and senate. Unless 30%-50% of Americans are lawyers.
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Worse, they hire additional outside lawyers to do their research and the actual drafting of laws. A national commitment to not electing lawyers to Congress might be a better way to encourage change than supporting one party over another.
 
Babbylonian said:
Worse, they hire additional outside lawyers to do their research and the actual drafting of laws.
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Not only that, but lawyers for lobbyists are directly writing laws in some cases. This part is bad.

A national commitment to not electing lawyers to Congress might be a better way to encourage change than supporting one party over another.
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This part, eh. Its not a bad idea IMO to have people familiar with the law, making laws. Maybe there are too many lawyers up there. I don't know what a good percentage would be, 25%?
 
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