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dudalb said:
According to the WAPO, the emails Booker leaked had been cleared for release, he just jumped the gun a little.
This will make expulsion almost impossible ( I never thought it was a realistic possibility anyway). On the other hand, it does make it look like Booker was indulging in a little bit of grandstanding.
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Yes. I thought this thing had reached peak silliness a while ago, but apparently not. Kavanaugh will be confirmed and everyone at the confirmation hearing knows it. So it's all really just political grandstanding and jockeying for position, particularly between Kamala Harris and Corey Booker. Who could have not seen that coming?
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
Yes. I thought this thing had reached peak silliness a while ago, but apparently not. Kavanaugh will be confirmed and everyone at the confirmation hearing knows it. So it's all really just political grandstanding and jockeying for position, particularly between Kamala Harris and Corey Booker. Who could have not seen that coming?
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"Cory Booker & Kamala Harris competing for Most Hysterical Woman at the Kavanaugh hearings."
-- Ann Coulter (Sept 6, 2018)
 
Adapted from GOP twitter feed:

"LAST NIGHT: -Spartacus spoke for 75% of his 30-minute questioning period -Spartacus interrupted Judge Kavanaugh 23 times in 30 minutes -Kamala Harris interrupted him 27 times in 30 minutes Looks like their 2020 campaigns have already begun."
 
Ziggurat said:
1) that's not a requirement
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If you really believe this, then you have a grave misunderstanding of how employment works.

2) since this money is disbursed before any fines are levied, and there's no indication that they have to return the money if they aren't fined, they very well may make money.
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And this all according to whom?

Don't know, don't care.
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Can’t explain it, will continue to ignore it.

They are being paid.
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Not to protest.

It's not like this is the first time, there is a long history of paying people to protest. For example:
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ppfu0o/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-working-stiffed
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There’s also a long history of conservative conspiracy theorists making false claims about paid protesters.
 
johnny karate said:
If you really believe this, then you have a grave misunderstanding of how employment works.
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Nobody said this was employment.

Not to protest.
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Is this some semantic quibble? That they're being paid for something else, which just happens to coincide with protesting?

There’s also a long history of conservative conspiracy theorists making false claims about paid protesters.
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Which isn't relevant, if they are in fact being paid.
 
tyr_13 said:
They don't have to be Trump enthusiasts. In fact, I bet many hate the man. However, they are constrained by what his election, and most importantly continued very high levels of support by Republicans, indicates.

You have one there. I don't think she will be (has she even objected to the absolutely craven procedural double-standard from the rest of the GOP yet?), but your view isn't merit less. Did you have another?
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Fair question. I think Murkowski is another moderate Republican. But two is not many and it's a long shot.

I think the conclusion is clear.
 
My feeling was, when the Democrats started talking about documents instead of issues, they lost the confirmation battle. I think the Dems aren't going to fight this one hard because the base doesn't really care, and the DNC really doesn't want to lose any red state Dems in the Senate.
 
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Fudbucker said:
My feeling was, when the Democrats started talking about documents instead of issues, they lost the confirmation battle.
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I find this to be a very odd position. In the first place, the documents are being used to bring up the issues of race and abortion. Secondly, Kavanaugh isn't going to own up to his positions on issues. Thirdly, Democrats are in the minority, and its not like they are going to change the Republican Senators minds on issues.

There is no confirmation battle. Republicans have the votes, and a few vulnerable Dems will use that as cover. The only thing that could stop it would be some sort of non-issue scandal.

I think the Dems aren't going to fight this one hard because the base doesn't really care, and the DNC really doesn't want to lose any red state Dems in the Senate.
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I don't see how they could be fighting harder. They are really just powerless in this situation. SCOTUS control is a huge issue for the bases of both parties. Did you miss the absolutely devastated grieving when Kennedy announced his retirement? It was a political bombshell.
 
Fudbucker said:
My feeling was, when the Democrats started talking about documents instead of issues, they lost the confirmation battle. I think the Dems aren't going to fight this one hard because the base doesn't really care, and the DNC really doesn't want to lose any red state Dems in the Senate.
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Really? I got my Trump voting buddy to concede that they should have time to review the released documents.

It took some effort, and I had to put the unreleased documents aside, but he agreed in the end.

He's a decent guy, despite his vote.
 
Ziggurat said:
Nobody said this was employment.



Is this some semantic quibble? That they're being paid for something else, which just happens to coincide with protesting?



Which isn't relevant, if they are in fact being paid.
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So it would be like offering to pay for a person's legal defense if they punched a protester in the face?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Note how he refuses to give a straight answer to the question of whether he's spoken to anybody other than his fellow judges about Mueller's investigation. The answer, however, is obviously "yes", because if it were "no" then he wouldn't need to know who worked at Trump's lawyers' firm in order to say that he'd not spoken to anybody there about it.
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There were more than a few times today he was clearly avoiding answering while trying not to perjure himself. That was one of them.

Claiming he didn't know what was in the 5,000 documents Trump was keeping secret was another. Kavanaugh is a lousy liar. He can't keep a straight face when he's giving questionably credible answers. Watch him and see.
 
dann said:
Is that what John Oliver calls astroturfing?!



(I'm asking because I'm trying to understand the concept.)
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No it is not. And given you can find the definition and descriptions of astro-turfing all over the net, I find it hard to believe you are just trying to understand the concept.
 
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