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theprestige said:
The evangelical wing of the conservative movement are retarded asshats and I hope they all die in a fire.
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I also don't consider any of the "conservative" noises that come out of Trump's mouth to be sincere expressions of a conservative value system. The main advantage there is that the President doesn't have to be sincerely conservative, to nominate conservative justices.
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You see, this is the problem that I (and I suspect others) have with your claims....

You claim that you dislike the evangelical Christian republicans... yet by being so keen to see conservative judges nominated, you are basically giving everything that those evangelicals want. Hard to picture you wanting them to "die in a fire" when you both seem to want the same thing.... a supreme court that is happy eliminating abortion rights and abusing minorities.

Its a little like saying you hate obesity, while at the same time encouraging people to go on the 'all-lard and sugar' diet.
 
How about overturning the constitutionality of independent counsels?

Judge Brett Kavanaugh two years ago expressed his desire to overturn a three-decade-old Supreme Court ruling upholding the constitutionality of an independent counsel, a comment bound to get renewed scrutiny in his confirmation proceedings to sit on the high court.
Speaking to a conservative group in 2016, Kavanaugh bluntly said he wanted to "put the final nail" in a 1988 Supreme Court ruling. That decision, known as Morrison v. Olson, upheld the constitutionality of provisions creating an independent counsel under the 1978 Ethics in Government Act -- the same statute under which Ken Starr, for whom Kavanaugh worked, investigated President Bill Clinton. The law expired in 1999, when it was replaced by the more modest Justice Department regulation that governs special counsels like Robert Mueller.
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1036769126411366401
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And Chuck Grassley doesn't give a rats posterior about any objections. His only objective is to steamroll this confirmation hearing through.

Edit: Frankly, if this keeps up, the Democrats should just stay away the next few days. Let the Republicans field their softball questions and vote him through by themselves, as it would be the only way to ensure that Kavanaugh's entire time as a justice would be tainted with an asterisk.
 
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Segnosaur said:
I really have the wonder about the logical disconnect in the brains of some of Trump's supporters (such as the type that read InfoWars.) Here they are, so concerned about government conspiracies and overreach, yet they support Trump, who ended up nominating a judge who is likely to allow such overreach to continue.
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Correction: they are concerned about Democrat overreach. When the overreach benefits them, it's ok. It's like Democracy itself, they're fine with it so long as it helps them. Otherwise, they have no problem bending it until it breaks, so long as they end up with most of the pieces.
 
Democrats should present more serious support for abortion than the "Party For abortion and stick it in their faces" nonsense I've been seeing for years. There are many Americans whose support you will need if Roe V. Wade is overturned who find this very offensive. I'm sure there are many people like myself who aren't necessarily pro-abortion but don't want it to be made illegal, and you need a marketing approach that doesn't drive us away. Give us something we can actively support.
 
I thought it was amusing how quickly Kavanaugh jumped up when he heard they were going on break. With all the water he's been sipping he must have had to go really badly!
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Yes. And the 100,000 that still haven't been released at all.

Why wouldn't they care?
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They care to the extent that they're hoping to find dirt. But they've already made the decision to oppose him regardless of what's in those documents. They aren't waiting for information from those documents in order to make their decision.
 
Ziggurat said:
They care to the extent that they're hoping to find dirt. But they've already made the decision to oppose him regardless of what's in those documents. They aren't waiting for information from those documents in order to make their decision.
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They are also hoping that there is enough dirt in those docs to make Kavanaugh unpalatable to more people, to start to put pressure on GOP senators and to help keep any wavering Democrats in-line.

Based on his previous rulings and previously released docs, that all seems a real possibility. Paint a picture of a tainted judge from a tainted administration.
 
Ziggurat said:
They care to the extent that they're hoping to find dirt.
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By "dirt" you mean "something that would clearly make him unfit for the job". If there's nothing like that in those files, then there's no reason not to release them all and to allow everybody the time to read them thoroughly, correct?

But they've already made the decision to oppose him regardless of what's in those documents.
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It's certainly true that some people deem him unfit for the job based on what of his past record has already been released. This, of course, doesn't imply that none of the people speaking out about this situation don't also care about transparency in these proceedings, or about the fact that if it goes through then a man who is under criminal investigation has been able to choose his own judge.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
By "dirt" you mean "something that would clearly make him unfit for the job".
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No. I mean anything that they can use for political advantage. Something that proved he was unfit would qualify, but that's certainly not a requirement.

If there's nothing like that in those files, then there's no reason not to release them all and to allow everybody the time to read them thoroughly, correct?
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No, that's not correct. There are a number of other reasons for Republicans to want to hide those files, including setting a precedent for other Trump nominees, preventing the release of stuff that would embarrass somebody else, and preventing the release of something that might make Kavanaugh look bad but shouldn't actually be disqualifying.

Note that I'm not arguing that any such motives actually justify not releasing the files, but there are clearly other possibilities in play here.

It's certainly true that some people deem him unfit for the job based on what of his past record has already been released.
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Some people? Try basically every Democrat senator.

This, of course, doesn't imply that none of the people speaking out about this situation don't also care about transparency in these proceedings
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The senate doesn't care about transparency except to the extent that they can get political advantage from it. That cuts across party lines. I'm sure some of the people outside the senate calling for the release of the papers genuinely care about transparency, but this is hardly the first or the last example of a lack of transparency in government. It's fairly unremarkable in that respect. I'd like more transparency in general, but the reality is I'm unlikely to get it.

or about the fact that if it goes through then a man who is under criminal investigation has been able to choose his own judge.
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Yeah, not really. If the investigation turns up anything real and significant about Trump himself, the relevant legal remedy will be impeachment. In that event, the Chief Justice would preside over the trial in the senate, and that wouldn't be Kavanaugh or any other Trump-appointed judge. The Supreme Court would have no other role in impeachment proceedings, and even that role is pretty limited.
 
KDLarsen said:
And Chuck Grassley doesn't give a rats posterior about any objections. His only objective is to steamroll this confirmation hearing through.

Edit: Frankly, if this keeps up, the Democrats should just stay away the next few days. Let the Republicans field their softball questions and vote him through by themselves, as it would be the only way to ensure that Kavanaugh's entire time as a justice would be tainted with an asterisk.
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I'd rather see his record exposed. And I hope exposing Kavanaugh's extremism embarrasses him personally into reconsidering those positions.

I'd like the Democratic Senators to play hypocritical clips of Republicans in the Kagen and Sotomayor hearings saying the exact same things they are arguing against now.
 
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