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BobTheCoward said:
You made a claim, it is your obligation to support it. I had made no claim. Asking me to devise explanations to defend your claim is not how skepticism works.

When proving they discovered the higgs boson, and others asked how, they didn't tell the others to try and figure it out, first.
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Well, it ain't exactly the higgs boson, and I didn't make a claim, i stated a fact, and was hoping that our readers could figure out on their own why it might be significant. It is cool, you don't want to try to analyze the issue, heck I don't hold it against you. Trying to figure stuff out is hard work. I am happy to do the heavy lifting, so:

Statute of limitations.
 
The Big Dog said:
Well, it ain't exactly the higgs boson, and I didn't make a claim, i stated a fact, and was hoping that our readers could figure out on their own why it might be significant. It is cool, you don't want to try to analyze the issue, heck I don't hold it against you. Trying to figure stuff out is hard work. I am happy to do the heavy lifting, so:

Statute of limitations.
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Also, the exact details of the allegation aren't clear, however, if the incident occurred when both of them were in high school, they were most likely minors at the time.
 
No matter if the allegations (or whatever was in the letter) are or are not true, I don't think this situation reflects poorly on Feinstein. She didn't show the letter to anyone else on the committee, including her fellow Democrats, and sent it to proper authorities. She didn't publicly announce it, and only gave the minimum amount of information in response to media reporting.

I might even count that all against it being true or relevant. But if it is true that she has retained a credible and high profile attorney, there might be something there. But again, even that isn't confirmed. Unless the accuser (which we don't even know exists) does a civil suit or public accusation, I doubt we'll hear more about it. The latest from the FBI:

An FBI spokesperson said in a statement that the bureau had added the information to the judge’s background file, which is available for the White House to review.

“Upon receipt of the information on the night of September 12, we included it as part of Judge Kavanaugh’s background file, as per the standard process,” the spokesperson said.

That indicates there’s no plan for further investigation as part of the background check process, which likely would have happened if the FBI had received the information earlier on.
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Linky.

If it is part of his background file, does that mean the other Senators can read it now? So far they all have said they haven't read it.
 
ServiceSoon said:
Also, the exact details of the allegation aren't clear, however, if the incident occurred when both of them were in high school, they were most likely minors at the time.
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Excellent point, and one I was thinking of too! Kavanaugh was born in February so did not turn 18 until deep into his senior year.
 
The Big Dog said:
Well, it ain't exactly the higgs boson, and I didn't make a claim, i stated a fact, and was hoping that our readers could figure out on their own why it might be significant. It is cool, you don't want to try to analyze the issue, heck I don't hold it against you. Trying to figure stuff out is hard work. I am happy to do the heavy lifting, so:

Statute of limitations.
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You made a claim, "reeks of desperation."

And a defense of a claim is not hoping the reader figures it out. This is a skepticism forum.
 
The Big Dog said:
He graduated from high school in 1983, so, yeah...

Reeks of desperation...
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I agree, reeks of desperation at this point. Whatever it is, was it so nightmarish that the only thing to uncover this long buried memory is the fact that the kid you knew in High Scool is now a candidate for Supreme Court justice?

I wonder if they will be digging up his video rentals yet.
 
BobTheCoward said:
You made a claim, "reeks of desperation."

And a defense of a claim is not hoping the reader figures it out. This is a skepticism forum.
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But you didn't ask why it reeks of desperation, you asked "What does the year matter?"

And I was simply asking, bob, if you wanted to take a stab at it before I spoon fed you the answer. You have made it quite clear that you did not want to, and that is totally groovy.

Happy as the dickens to spoon feed our readers!
 
The Big Dog said:
But you didn't ask why it reeks of desperation, you asked "What does the year matter?"

And I was simply asking, bob, if you wanted to take a stab at it before I spoon fed you the answer. You have made it quite clear that you did not want to, and that is totally groovy.

Happy as the dickens to spoon feed our readers!
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Of course I wouldn't. I feel you incurred an obligation to spoon feed it. That is all I feel I need to ask.
 
The Big Dog said:
say, lets have a little fun! Give me three reasons why you think the fact it allegedly happened no later than 1983 might matter.

There are no wrong answers! Let your critical thinking skills really shine.

Excited!
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I'll bite. It depends on the nature of the alleged event and its impact on other people and his own life. Did he cop a feel in a backseat? Steal pizza money from the debate club? Probably doesn't matter. But what could somebody do at age 17 that would have lifelong consequences? Did he rape a girl and the cops hushed it up? Get a girl pregnant and pay for an abortion? Did he wreck a car and cripple a classmate? Did he lie about anything important on his application to Yale? Whatever it is, has he ever lied about or misrepresented it subsequently on a school or job application?

I would think if it mattered it would have come out by now, certainly when he was nominated to be a federal judge. But secrets are always secret until they're not.
 
Ziggurat said:
... What possible purpose would Kavanaugh have for sending out a dog whistle? He's already been nominated, and he's already got a lock on the conservative wing of the party. All he has to do is not get any centrist Republicans to defect. And dog whistles can't help him do that, they could only hurt. Clinton's theory is basically that Kavanaugh is an idiot who can't control himself. But you've got to be an idiot to believe that's the case.
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If what you conclude is true, why is someone investing millions in a TV commercial campaign telling all of us what a great guy he is?

In the court of public opinion the GOP has to quell a potential riot. It helps to have the public calling their Senators to confirm the guy because heaven knows there are millions calling Senators to vote him down.
 
Bob001 said:
But what could somebody do at age 17 that would have lifelong consequences? Did he rape a girl and the cops hushed it up? Get a girl pregnant and pay for an abortion?
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That would be my guess.

In the '70s my brother knocked up 2 different girls in HS. They were former best friends!
 
Ziggurat said:
Except Harris is lying and Clinton is parroting her lie. Kavanaugh didn't call birth control pills abortion inducing. He described the plaintiff's position in a case. The plaintiff, not Kavanaugh, called them that. And to say that describing a plaintiff's position accurately is an objectionable view is simply wrong.
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Except that doesn't in any way change what I said nor the validity of it.
 
theprestige said:
It's not about changing the validity, but exposing the validity.
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It does no such thing.

Do you believe the criticism my mockery conveyed lacks validity? If so, I hope you misinterpreted it, because it's very basic.
 
"Senior Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein has alerted federal investigators to a confidential letter she received regarding Brett Kavanaugh.

"A source who said they were briefed on the contents of the letter said it described an incident involving Kavanaugh and a woman that took place when both were 17 years old and at a party.

"According to the source, Kavanaugh and a male friend had locked her in a room against her will, making her feel threatened, but she was able to get out of the room.

"The person who wrote the letter is being represented by an attorney, Debra Katz, who has been described in media reports as Washington’s #MeToo lawyer."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/13/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein-confidential-letter (Sept 13, 2018)
 
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