New perspectives on Relativity

[Thomas]

I think it would be fair to say that lifegazer's "philosophy" is a complete waste of time. They thought so aswell on the philosophyforums.com, when they banned the poor guy for repeating his nonsense over-and-over again - about a year, or two, ago.

Keep up the good work lifegazer! You're a genius


..NI!

 

[Upchurch]

Re: Facts to ponder whilst you go to sleep.

(1) We now know that the world we perceive is internal to awareness/ourselves.

Unproven.

(2) We now know that we perceive the SOL to be a constant (numerical value) because the actual source of that light is not the object we perceive, but the Mind which creates the sensation of light - and hence the perception of that object.

Unsupported.

(3) We know that there is no such thing as absolute/universal space-time. Einstein told us this. Yet without the existence of universal spacetime, there is no universe external to our own being. I.e., there can be no universe "out there".

Untrue.

...I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to respond to high-school lunch room level musings. So...

 

[sackett]

Overnight thoughts about LG

LG builds a playhouse out of odds and bits picked up around the housing estate. Then some bigger kids come along and knock it down. No wonder that he ends by shrilling at them to "Just go away! You don't even want to play nice! It's my game and you kin just go on! I'm way better'n you anyhow!"

Our fantasy worlds mean a lot to us, especially as children. LG is coming to us from the child's side of his nature, and like a child he feels abused when his fantasy is disregarded. I once called him a crank, i.e., someone with an obsession that others don't - and can't - share. I didn't reflect that it's obviously no fun being a crank and finding yourself constantly on the outs with people for no reason you can see.

Most of the big kids who post to LG's threads are kindly intentioned. "Here, shorty, let us help you with that. It'll fall on your head if you pile it up the way you're going! Oh hell, look what he's doing with it! He's making it worse! Hey, you little snotball! Cut that out!" Etc.

I've never done worse than mock and ridicule LG, but I've never done any better either. I'm working on deciding how I feel about that.

 

[Pahansiri]

Over 3 hundred Proofs of Gods Existence site

I am sure our friend will work with many of these and greatly add to the number.

 

[Thomas]

Re: Re: Facts to ponder whilst you go to sleep.

...I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to respond to high-school lunch room level musings. So...

Hey, at least you tried to set him straight, I'm too lazy to do that.

 

[P.S.A.]

Re: Overnight thoughts about LG

Most of the big kids who post to LG's threads are kindly intentioned. "Here, shorty, let us help you with that. It'll fall on your head if you pile it up the way you're going! Oh hell, look what he's doing with it! He's making it worse! Hey, you little snotball! Cut that out!" Etc.

I'm the one that's not kindly intentioned..!

The thing is though, Lifegazer's beliefs have absolutely no emotional understanding of the concept of why that might be. His response to Evil in the world is to simply repeat, over and over, that it would all go away if only you loved God/Lifegazer. As it currently stands however, I can (and have been doing) make the very obvious point to him that my current existance is the part of God's dream which wishes to experience being Evil to himself... an idea which his own philosophy presently seems to state MUST occur to give God free will and omnicogniscence. Lifegazer not only doesn't offer an escape from Evil, he literally is ensuring it's eternal existance. Without his own suffering, he has no point here on Earth. Without the thought of escaping from suffering, he has no hope. Oh dear, oh dear...

 

[Atlas]

Re: Overnight thoughts about LG

I've never done worse than mock and ridicule LG, but I've never done any better either. I'm working on deciding how I feel about that.

I know exactly how you feel. I start each new thread that Lg puts up with a genuine question concerning his perspective and philosophy. As I follow the dialog I get frustrated with Lg's evasiveness and I am pulled into mock and ridicule myself.

By now Lg should have a identified his philosophy's assumptions - he says there are none - and how with logic they confirm his God. These should be in a seperate thread's opening post so that we can all refer to them. If he really wanted to convince us with his "logic" we'd have to see it. He does these language shifts all the time that make him appear foolish. "Only You exist." "You don't exist - God exists as the experience of you."

Others have asked for definitions of terms as basic as "I" and "You". With all that he has posted he should be able to provide a FAQ or links to our common misunderstandings and misrepresentations of his philosophy.

Because it is not available one is left to conclude that he is being disingenous when he says others should embrace his philosophy. There is nothing to embrace. Just childish proclamations without real substance. He cries not for humanity's ignorance - he cries for attention. He is a narcissist who cannot understand why people don't agree he is beautiful.

 

[Z]

Totally unique???

So, is this lifegazer's web group?

If not, then there goes his claims to having a unique philosophy.

If so - why doesn't he couch his arguments here in the lovely language of that (pathetic) web group?

Sorry, lg - from what I can tell, your idea isn't original in the least.

 

[Z]

He he he he...

OK, exercise for those demented enough to care: type into Google "You are God" and check out a select few of the hits. The site in my last post. This site.

And several others.

Nope, lg is neither original nor particularly interesting.

 

[Bodhi Dharma Zen]

Zaayrdragon

I dont think he believe he is original. The Upanishads told it waay before him (Brahman-Atman). Even the good old George Berkeley said it before.

 

[Upchurch]

I dont think he believe he is original.

He does, actually. Groudbreaking, revolutionary, end of the scientific regime, and all the usual.

This is what happens when people don't learn from the past.

 

[Darat]

He does, actually. Groudbreaking, revolutionary, end of the scientific regime, and all the usual.

This is what happens when people don't learn from the past.

Really? I've never paid much attention before this thread (think I may have responded in one or two threads in the past) but since reading this and a few other posts what is at original about his "philosophy".

I can't say it without it sounding insulting but from what I’ve read of his "philosophy" it is just a typical mixture of the mundane, bog-standard conceits that I think most of us stopped playing with during our early teens.

(Edited for words.)

 

[H'ethetheth]

In this specific case:

This is what happens when people don't learn...

period

 

[Upchurch]

Really? I've never paid much attention before this thread (think I may have responded in one or two threads in the past) but since reading this and a few other posts what is at original about his "philosophy".

Really. I can't seem to find it (since it was probably buried on page 10 of some really long thread), but there was one thread where we managed to site examples of others who had previously come up with pretty much every aspect of lifegazer's philosophy. He of course rejected it since his philosophy, by his own definition, is original and revolutionary.

I can't say it without it sounding insulting but from what I’ve read of his "philosophy" it is just a typical mixture of the mundane, bog-standard conceits that I think most of us stopped playing with during our early teens.

Again, my memory is failing me, but after lifegazer boasted that "top philosophers" would recognize the the value of his philosophy, someone on here show lifegazer's stuff to their philosophy professor. The prof's reaction was something to the effect of "Oh, nihilistic solipsism. Most pilosophy majors get over that their freshman year."

Not lifegazer.

 

[Z]

Some selected quotes from lifegazer's posts:

Here are some more thoughts of my own; though I recognise that I'm not the first to discuss such issues.

Hmm... see below: some contradictions will ensue.

As a philosophy, it is new. Nobody else, for example, has solved the so-called paradox of omnipotence. My philosophy has. I present several unique arguments which nobody else has. The beginning of this thread, as another example, was a new slant on an old idea.

Like this.

This post is about gaining attention.

Well, there's the truth...

Skepchicks are sexy. I live with one.

Until she left you for being a 'woo woo'. Or have you been lying, then or now?

I know that existence is real/true/definite.

Oh, really?

The mind creates its own sensed existence - even as a response to external stimulae...

So... there ARE external stimulae???

Things observed must be distinct from the observer who recognises them.

But if nothing exists except for God??

The observed universe is the universe.

So observed reality is reality.

There cannot be an extended space of nothingness.

I just brought this one back out as an example of his arse- backwards knowledge of things.

An absolute vacuum is extended space of nothingness.

But i digress...

An assumption is when somebody proclaims a fact without having direct experience or rational evidence for that fact.

So 95% of your posts are assumptions. Got it.

I've had a word with the big fella and you shall be spared... for the moment.

Here's the ultra-ego, hard at work...

I aim to stir this forum up to a frenzy.

Hmmm... so far, except for a few of us lunatics, this forum is ignoring you.

I speak the truth and abhor nonsense and insincerity.

Got that backwards, there, friend...

Or do you deny the insincerity of claiming the ability to do miracles and NOT DOING THEM???

To be all things, and to have all power, is to eliminate need. Reason check.

Ah, so you've quit your job, stopped buying things, and get electricity to run your computer for free?

What needs have you eliminated again, lg?

I am in a hurry to see things change. God however already knows the end.

Make of this what you will, in connection to things he's said about what we are doing to God...

he fundamental basis of a good religion - and definitely a good philosophy - is that it should make sense in relation to existence.

Which yours does not.

cannot oppose the omnipotence of God since no power exists external to omnipotence. I am what I was meant to be.

And we are what we are meant to be. And the world is what the world is meant to be.

So... in other words... your philosophy is meaningless and irrelevant.

Thank you.

Compare to this:

I am trying to help persuade the One entity not to choose death to ~becoming~.

Then you already know you are doomed to fail.



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Just some reminders of lifegazer's so-called reasoning.

 

[lifegazer]

It appears that people only want to talk about me. May I suggest that people who just want to mock & ridicule me start their own thread. This thread is about Relativity. If you don't want to talk about this issue, then you have no reason to be here. And like I said, you can start your own "we hate lifegazer" discussions elsewhere.

If nobody wants to talk about Relativity, then sobeit. Judging by the infantile quality of todays posts, it doesn't look that way.

 

[Pahansiri]

It appears that people only want to talk about me. May I suggest that people who just want to mock & ridicule me start their own thread. This thread is about Relativity. If you don't want to talk about this issue, then you have no reason to be here. And like I said, you can start your own "we hate lifegazer" discussions elsewhere.

If nobody wants to talk about Relativity, then sobeit. Judging by the infantile quality of todays posts, it doesn't look that way.

Greetings my friend.

I agree personal attacks are never needed, this would of course your many such attacks on others. You you should give the same respect you seek as should all.

As to Relativity you are not seeking discussions on Relativity you mearly point at everything and demand it proves god, it does not it only proves Relativity

 

[Darat]

It appears that people only want to talk about me. May I suggest that people who just want to mock & ridicule me start their own thread. This thread is about Relativity. If you don't want to talk about this issue, then you have no reason to be here. And like I said, you can start your own "we hate lifegazer" discussions elsewhere.

If nobody wants to talk about Relativity, then sobeit. Judging by the infantile quality of todays posts, it doesn't look that way.

If you want a discussion about "relativity" why not start a thread in the appropriate section e.g. "Science..."? That would seem the sensible course of action in this Forum.

 

[Z]

It appears that people only want to talk about me. May I suggest that people who just want to mock & ridicule me start their own thread. This thread is about Relativity. If you don't want to talk about this issue, then you have no reason to be here. And like I said, you can start your own "we hate lifegazer" discussions elsewhere.

If nobody wants to talk about Relativity, then sobeit. Judging by the infantile quality of todays posts, it doesn't look that way.

I have found that, when the original poster is wrong, when their logic is faulty, when they are willfully ignorant and remain so in spite of evidence; then they become fair game. It helps other readers realize the errors of reasoning within the arguments, and establishes a degree of credibility - or lack thereof - for the poster in question.

Besides, you haven't been discussing much about relativity - only your own loosely based theories.

 

[Z]

If you want a discussion about "relativity" why not start a thread in the appropriate section e.g. "Science..."? That would seem the sensible course of action in this Forum.

No, because 1) he is trying to use a scientific theory to 'prove' his philosophy, and 2) he rarely gets the science even remotely right, so those who are regulars in the Science forum are better equipped to shred his arguments.

Of course, the same is true of his philosophy in general... Perhaps Humour or Fantasy? Or Flame Wars, since he often goes there...