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New Passports - Privacy Invasion

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New passports are going into effect in the US in 2005. They will contain biometric data, as well as the usual stuff (name, birth date, etc.).

The passport broadcasts your data via rf over a 30 ft range -- without encryption.

If you get your passport renewed now, before the new ones come out, you avoid this for 10 years.
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Before the end of the year, the first U.S. biometric passport will be issued with a tiny computer chip and antenna embedded inside it. The chip will contain a digital image of the person's face, along with other information such as name, birth date and birthplace. The data on the chip can be picked up wirelessly using a radio signal.
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The problem, security and privacy experts say, is that the technical standard chosen for the system leaves passport data unprotected. The technology allows data on the chip to be read remotely using radio frequency identification, or RFID.
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As the standard was being decided this year, privacy and security experts argued it should include features to protect the data, such as encryption or the addition of a printed bar code inside the passport to "unlock" the data.

Such features would let passport holders know who was reading their data and when. But the State Department so far has rejected proposals for encryption and other security measures.

Department officials said encryption would hinder interoperability of the system among the different countries using it and slow down already tedious border crossings.
 
Oh wow! I'm gonna buy me a new wilan card for my laptop, and I'm gonna get me a Green Card for free!
 
Oh my God! It would be awful -- AWFUL -- if someone within 30 feet from you could determine your height and what your face looks like!

Just to play the devil's advocate here, is there any situation where this "privacy invasion" actually matters? Is it important to remain anonymous during those last precious minutes of standing in line at the check-in counter?
 
Looks like good time for passport, although I won't be shocked if they requre all people redo theirs once those have been in effect and tested.
 
karl said:
Oh my God! It would be awful -- AWFUL -- if someone within 30 feet from you could determine your height and what your face looks like!

Just to play the devil's advocate here, is there any situation where this "privacy invasion" actually matters? Is it important to remain anonymous during those last precious minutes of standing in line at the check-in counter?
Without knowing exactly how, I'm going to suggest that this makes it technically possible, when going through US Customs, for:

a) You to pretend to be someone else;
OR
b) Someone else to pretend to be you.

...for whatever advantage that may derive.
 
Without doing something about illegals coming over the boarders this is just a waste of money.
 
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Ed said:
Without doing something about illegals coming over the boarders this is just a waste of money.

THe 911 terrorists came in legally.

Throwing billions of dollars at the borders woudl be a waste compared to the security you gain. Your better off spending money on tracking down the overstaying illegals. They are more likely to be a security risk.
 
Zep said:
Without knowing exactly how, I'm going to suggest that this makes it technically possible, when going through US Customs, for:

a) You to pretend to be someone else;
OR
b) Someone else to pretend to be you.

...for whatever advantage that may derive.

My brother misplaced his passport just prior to a trip to the US once and borrowed mine instead, so I'm fairly sure one can "pretend" with low-tech passports too. Please clarify.
 
The article says aluminum foil will prevent unwanted reading, so I don't have a big problem with it - other than the sense of false security it generates.


How sensitive is the device? Could it help identify bodies in a plane crash?
 
What do you have to do with the aluminium foil? Wrap it around the passport or make a helmet?
 
The Fool said:
What do you have to do with the aluminium foil? Wrap it around the passport or make a helmet?

I've found aluminium foil chainmail bikinis work the best. That way, they can't beam the cancer into my uterus.

On a serious note, who ever worked on those things is a serious dumb****.
 
The Fool said:
What do you have to do with the aluminium foil? Wrap it around the passport or make a helmet?

That depends on the person, plus it's not an either/or choice.
 
Grammatron said:
That depends on the person, plus it's not an either/or choice.
hmmmmm,yes once again you are very wise grammatron....can't be tooooo carefull so I'll do both.


Actually I'm assuming that these devices are the type where a loop antenna re-radiates a signal powered by the induced current in the antenna caused by a radio pulse that is intended to trigger the device.

either that or we will all have to carry a 12v car battery on overseas trips..yep, thats a better idea..
 
I'm trying to think why they would want a passport that actually transmits your data in the first place and I can't think of one.

To save you time from having to take it out of your pocket?

And even if the data was encrypted, how long before the first RF-induced-cancer lawsuit claim from a frequent flyer?
 
Luke T. said:
I'm trying to think why they would want a passport that actually transmits your data in the first place and I can't think of one.

To save you time from having to take it out of your pocket?

And even if the data was encrypted, how long before the first RF-induced-cancer lawsuit claim from a frequent flyer?


It might make some types of passport forgery more difficult as one would have to rip open some part of the document to get access to the chip.

It might also mean that queues of cars/passengers could be processed more quickly through a checkpoint.
 
Nikk said:
It might make some types of passport forgery more difficult as one would have to rip open some part of the document to get access to the chip.

Okay. That makes a little sense.

It might also mean that queues of cars/passengers could be processed more quickly through a checkpoint.

Bad mistake to rely on SIGINT over HUMINT.
 
Nikk said:
It might also mean that queues of cars/passengers could be processed more quickly through a checkpoint.
Seems like a minor efficiency. The passport can be scanned, without the need for it to broadcast.
 
Luke T. said:
I'm trying to think why they would want a passport that actually transmits your data in the first place and I can't think of one.

To save you time from having to take it out of your pocket?

And even if the data was encrypted, how long before the first RF-induced-cancer lawsuit claim from a frequent flyer?

Other countries requested technology that required the passport be touched to something, but the U.S. put the kibosh on that idea. Analysts speculate that one reason was to surveil people beyond airports.

Seems kind of weird to me. If I were going to do something that might make the government folow me, I'd leave my passport with someone else.
 

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