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New NUKEMAP now online.

It's numbers for New York have to be wrong. A 350Kt bomb at the WTC only kills about a million people. Moving it to central park takes out all of Manhattan but only kills 1.5 million.


ETA: Just destroyed Jerusalem with a Pakistani bomb. 400,000 dead.
 
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Checkmite said:
WTMF @ some of the comments this thread. Christ.
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What? We're supposed to be all torn up about nukes? I grew up with these things. I grew up during the 80'ties with nightmares of burning to death in my sleep, of slow death by radiation and mushroom clouds on the horizon.

Hell, one of my first science classes were on cause and effect of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs.

I call Denmark my home: A small country which could be destroyed by a handfull of ICBMs in less than 10 minutes and so close to the (then) USSR that we would have had close to no reaction time had push come to show.

Our phonebooks had detailed descriptions of how to survive nuke attacks and what to do in the aftermath, thats what I grew up with.

While it wasn't the height of the cold war, it was still bad enough.

Are nukes terrible? Absolutely.
Should they all be scrapped? Hell yes.

But they aren't.

You can choose to react with horror or with some of the blackest humour there is. I prefer the later. Prevents me from sealing myself up in a bunker somewhere while moaning about the dangers of living.
 
Loss Leader said:
It's numbers for New York have to be wrong. A 350Kt bomb at the WTC only kills about a million people. Moving it to central park takes out all of Manhattan but only kills 1.5 million.
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Not everyone in the outer rings die.
 
I dropped a big one on London, ground burst, and got third degree burns here in Guildford, maybe about 40 miles from ground zero. But one giant bomb basically wiped out the whole city. How long before some nut gets their hands on one of these darn things?
 
anglolawyer said:
I dropped a big one on London, ground burst, and got third degree burns here in Guildford, maybe about 40 miles from ground zero. But one giant bomb basically wiped out the whole city. How long before some nut gets their hands on one of these darn things?
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Is there an airburst option? Much more effective that way.

Eta....now that I've had a chance to get on my pc I see there is. Site is really slow calculating casualties. Neat site....for a few minutes.
 
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The site does remind me of my childhood though, playing with the map overlays of blast radii my dad had. Yea, I had a strange upbringing, polishing boots, reading military handbooks, discussions of the Fulda gap (and how I came to be born in Germany).
 
Skibum said:
Is there an airburst option? Much more effective that way.

Eta....now that I've had a chance to get on my pc I see there is. Site is really slow calculating casualties. Neat site....for a few minutes.
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An airburst kills more people with the blast effect but a ground burst chucks up lots of radioactive material to blight life in the longer term.
 
SezMe said:
We need a tongue-in-cheek smilie.
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Maybe we should just ask a Boston resident what they would prefer ?

A Justin Beiber concert or being blown up in a nuclear blast ?

A bet most would go for the bomb. I know I would.
 
anglolawyer said:
An airburst kills more people with the blast effect but a ground burst chucks up lots of radioactive material to blight life in the longer term.
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With the 100Mt Tsar Bomb I think it'll produce enough fallout even with an airburst to be pretty unpleasant; it used a 238U tamper and would have been enormously 'dirty', I believe one estimate was equal to one quarter of the fallow generated by every nuclear test every carried out.

I wonder will NUKEMAP include the effects of salted weapons in the next revision, though this would be difficult to model accurately.
 
The_Fire said:
What? We're supposed to be all torn up about nukes? I grew up with these things. I grew up during the 80'ties with nightmares of burning to death in my sleep, of slow death by radiation and mushroom clouds on the horizon.

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You got off easy. Late Fifties and early Sixties in the U.S. we had regular drills in elementary school, teaching us how to hide under our desks in case of a nuclear attack. Not to mention instructional films and the occasional TV ad.

Even grade schoolers understood how ridiculous that was, but it gave a whole new meaning to "If I should die before I wake ..."
 
quadraginta said:
You got off easy. Late Fifties and early Sixties in the U.S. we had regular drills in elementary school, teaching us how to hide under our desks in case of a nuclear attack. Not to mention instructional films and the occasional TV ad.

Even grade schoolers understood how ridiculous that was, but it gave a whole new meaning to "If I should die before I wake ..."
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"Cold War kids were hard to kill, under their desks in a air-raid drill".
 
This is quite cool to muck about with - I dropped a 0.001kt bomb on my garden shed. That's one way of doing the gardening :D
 
Pffft. I dropped a 1 microton nuke on flaccon's laptop and not a damn thing changed. Drop a weightless spirit on it however and all hell breaks loose. Go figure.
 
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