New DVD – Steven Jones, PhD: “Nano-Thermite”

[runlikell]

"Here’s the one we’ve been waiting for. Currently available only from AE911Truth.

Pre-order Now – Ships Aug 12th

Watch it online now

Nanothermite: What in the World is High-tech Explosive material Doing in the Dust Clouds Generated on 9/11/2001?

This new DVD, Hot off the press, contains the dynamic multimedia presentation given by Dr. Jones in Sacramento, CA on April 30th, 2009.

Steven E. Jones, Ph.D., Physics Professor Emeritus, Brigham Young University, brilliantly presents his carefully researched new discoveries made as he analyzed the dust from the World Trade Center high-rises on 9/11.

Jones presents the controversial new article in the peer-reviewed “Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal” – the result of 18 months of intensive scientific collaboration – exposing “the loaded gun of 9/11”. The beauty of the photos and the depth of understanding are breathtaking.

The implications of this new peer-reviewed paper are profound. Nanothermite, a highly engineered energetic nanocomposite, was conceived around 1990. By 2000 it had been weaponized and manufactured in top secret military laboratories. This nano-engineered form of thermite does not just burn extremely hot, it explodes.

Bonus video includes: Niels Harrit, PhD – TV interview on nanocomposites in the WTC on 4/6/09; and, “9/11: Blueprint for Truth” – 10 minute WTC 7 version."

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A new DVD for you guys to rip apart.

Since the chain of custody argument is often given, does this mean you guys think Jones and Harrit actually spiked the dust? This would be hard to believe; they may be wrong, they may be a bit crazy, but surely they are honest men, no?

 

[FineWine]

"Here’s the one we’ve been waiting for. Currently available only from AE911Truth.

Pre-order Now – Ships Aug 12th

Watch it online now

Nanothermite: What in the World is High-tech Explosive material Doing in the Dust Clouds Generated on 9/11/2001?

This new DVD, Hot off the press, contains the dynamic multimedia presentation given by Dr. Jones in Sacramento, CA on April 30th, 2009.

Steven E. Jones, Ph.D., Physics Professor Emeritus, Brigham Young University, brilliantly presents his carefully researched new discoveries made as he analyzed the dust from the World Trade Center high-rises on 9/11.

Jones presents the controversial new article in the peer-reviewed “Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal” – the result of 18 months of intensive scientific collaboration – exposing “the loaded gun of 9/11”. The beauty of the photos and the depth of understanding are breathtaking.

The implications of this new peer-reviewed paper are profound. Nanothermite, a highly engineered energetic nanocomposite, was conceived around 1990. By 2000 it had been weaponized and manufactured in top secret military laboratories. This nano-engineered form of thermite does not just burn extremely hot, it explodes.

Bonus video includes: Niels Harrit, PhD – TV interview on nanocomposites in the WTC on 4/6/09; and, “9/11: Blueprint for Truth” – 10 minute WTC 7 version."

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A new DVD for you guys to rip apart.

Since the chain of command argument is often given, does this mean you guys think Jones and Harrit actually spiked the dust? This would be hard to believe; they may be wrong, they may be a bit crazy, but surely they are honest men, no?

Why would honest men refuse to share their work with colleagues who do not subscribe to their bizarre political agendas? Why would honest men refuse to submit their work to independent labs? Why would honest men bypass the peer-review process for a tawdry pay-for-play journal?

Jones and Harrit are frauds.

 

[Justin39640]

if you cant verify the chain
how can you say no one spiked it before they had it?
you cant say for certain either way

seeing a lot of things that the truth distorts knowingly and willfully i dont think it would be a shocker if someone slipped in a nanothermite mickey
but most people know its just paint chips

 

[Dave Rogers]

A new DVD for you guys to rip apart.

Unless it presents something over and above Harrit et al's fatally flawed Bentham paper, it's already in shreds.

Since the chain of command argument is often given, does this mean you guys think Jones and Harrit actually spiked the dust? This would be hard to believe; they may be wrong, they may be a bit crazy, but surely they are honest men, no?

It's "chain of custody". And you're presenting a false dilemma: either Harrit and Jones are dishonest, or the samples are representative. There are many other possibilities. The methodology by which the dust samples were collected is, as far as we know, laughably poor, meaning that there is no reason to suppose they are representative of dust generated by the collapse. The people supplying them to Jones and Harrit may have tampered with the samples; we know little or nothing about them. The samples may have been accidentally mixed up, or contaminated by bad handling.

And, finally, no, we don't know for certain that Jones and Harrit are honest men. Jones was forced to retire for attempting to bypass the peer review process, an important safeguard of honesty in science, and continues to come up with ways to circumvent it. This is suggestive, if no more, of dishonest intentions.

Dave

 

[newton3376]

A new DVD for you guys to rip apart.

Since the chain of command argument is often given, does this mean you guys think Jones and Harrit actually spiked the dust? This would be hard to believe; they may be wrong, they may be a bit crazy, but surely they are honest men, no?

Is the chain of command argument anything like the chain of custody argument?

 

[DavidJames]

I would like to know why a person who claims to seek the truth and is a good researcher is still unable to use the search function. Why can a someone like that only seem to find **** on a conspiracy theory site.

Never mind, I know why. because he's not interested in the truth and is your basic, ignorant, garden variety, conspiracy theorist.

 

[newton3376]

It's "chain of custody".

Damn you Dave.....you beat me to it....

 

[uk_dave]

....... but surely they are honest men, no?

What makes you think that?

Jones believes that jesus walked with the ancient mayan.... in fact he believes he has found evidence to support this.

Still trust him?

Why do they deliberately lie about the veracity of Bentham? Hasn't there been enough doubt cast upon this for them to actually go and get their cast iron proof published in a mainstream peer reviewed journal and stop all the questions about their methods?

Why should I trust liars?

Why do you?

 

[TruthersLie]

"Here’s the one we’ve been waiting for. Currently available only from AE911Truth.

You twoofs have been waiting for it... make sure you pay the fee to own it.

Pre-order Now – Ships Aug 12th

Watch it online now

No thanks. it will be a waste of time. Next you will be hot and bothered about the "new" loose change on 9/22

Nanothermite: What in the World is High-tech Explosive material Doing in the Dust Clouds Generated on 9/11/2001?

There was NO nanothermite there... swing and a massive miss... try again.

This new DVD, Hot off the press, contains the dynamic multimedia presentation given by Dr. Jones in Sacramento, CA on April 30th, 2009.

where you can watch him LIE out of his ass, and misrepresent facts to spin it to the wacky opinion that there was some sort of themite... but why does he tell Greening, there must have been conventional explosives there too? Conventional explosives which were mysteriously silent.

Steven E. Jones, Ph.D., Physics Professor Emeritus, Brigham Young University, brilliantly presents his carefully researched new discoveries made as he analyzed the dust from the World Trade Center high-rises on 9/11.

appeal to authority would help if he wasn't forced to retire due to ethical reasons...

and nice to see you just copied and pasted it DIRECTLY from AEtwoof.

Jones presents the controversial new article in the peer-reviewed “Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal”

snicker... peer reviewed... you are repeating that crap? You have already been shown they are NOT peer reviewed, unless you mean "did the check clear?"

– the result of 18 months of intensive scientific collaboration – exposing “the loaded gun of 9/11”. The beauty of the photos and the depth of understanding are breathtaking.

18 wasted months... wow... kind of like most normal twoofs... wasting years slandering the dead and pissing on the living.

The implications of this new peer-reviewed paper are profound.

Yes they are. The implications are that P.T. Barnum was right. One is born every minute... and you should stay in school kids.

Nanothermite, a highly engineered energetic nanocomposite, was conceived around 1990. By 2000 it had been weaponized and manufactured in top secret military laboratories.

prove it. it had been weaponized... RIGHT. super sekret internet ninja's did it.

This nano-engineered form of thermite does not just burn extremely hot, it explodes.

Hush A Boom!!! and it will clean your room, wash your dog, and makes julian fires too!!!

Bonus video includes: Niels Harrit, PhD – TV interview on nanocomposites in the WTC on 4/6/09; and, “9/11: Blueprint for Truth” – 10 minute WTC 7 version."

make sure you pay up, and join AETWOOF... we have bills to pay suckers!!!!

A new DVD for you guys to rip apart.

based on OLD LIES that have been ripped to shreds.

Since the chain of command argument is often given, does this mean you guys think Jones and Harrit actually spiked the dust? This would be hard to believe; they may be wrong, they may be a bit crazy, but surely they are honest men, no?

nice appeal to niceness... they are lying frauds.
And you can't do 10 minutes of research to see how this has already been debunked?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140017&highlight=nanothermite
and
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146027&highlight=nanothermite
and
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140426&highlight=nanothermite
and the fantastic rebuttals by sunstealer
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139293&highlight=nanothermite

an MA you say? cognitvie neuroscience?
wow...
5 minutes of real research. try it.

 

[johnny karate]

Nothing says legitmate scientific research like "DVD for sale".

 

[Dave Rogers]

"Jones presents the controversial new article in the peer-reviewed “Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal” –

ITYM "the journal whose incompetent peer-review processes have recently been very publicly exposed, and whose managing editor resigned in protest at this paper being published without her knowledge".

the result of 18 months of intensive scientific collaboration – exposing “the loaded gun of 9/11”. The beauty of the photos and the depth of understanding are breathtaking.

Shouldn't that be "smoking gun"? AE911T can't even get their cliches right. The depth of understanding appears largely absent, given that authors are unable to recognise that a reaction producing a higher energy density than thermite cannot therefore be a thermite reaction, and that a DSC trace taken in an oxygen-containing ambient is a particularly incompetent way to test for a thermite reaction, which contains its own oxidation source. The fact that their methodology invalidates their results is indicative of incompetence, rather than depth of understanding.

Nanothermite, a highly engineered energetic nanocomposite, was conceived around 1990. By 2000 it had been weaponized and manufactured in top secret military laboratories.

Without a cite, I don't believe a word of this. It's classic conspiracist fantasy: make up something that agrees with your theory, assume it's true, then claim it as proven fact.

Dave

 

[runlikell]

It's "chain of custody".

Sorry. I don't normally wake up this early.

 

[The Big Dog]

Gee, they claim that bentham is peer reviewed not once but twice when in fact we all know that is a huge lie.

 

[KJC]

I am still waiting to see any demonstration of nanothermite to see if it can possibly cut thick steel beams.

Remember, Steven Jones is someone who dropped concrete 12 feet and thought it proved that no concrete should have been pulverized in the WTC collapse.

 

[Crazytimes]

I am still waiting to see any demonstration of nanothermite to see if it can possibly cut thick steel beams.

Remember, Steven Jones is someone who dropped concrete 12 feet and thought it proved that no concrete should have been pulverized in the WTC collapse.

Yeah, why have these liars not gotten part of a steel beam, some thermite and a camera and done this simple experiment ? Seems to me it would be an easy thing to do.

 

[FineWine]

Yeah, why have these liars not gotten part of a steel beam, some thermite and a camera and done this simple experiment ? Seems to me it would be an easy thing to do.

When "truthers" fool around with thermite, it isn't a pretty sight. The results tend to be somewhat inconvenient to their myths.

 

[triforcharity]

Sure, if they wanted to prove that it would take buttloads of that stuff, and it would take quite some time to actually accomplish what they said it did.

Plus, I don't actually believe there is such a thing as nano-thermite, but I could be wrong.

 

[~enigma~]

This would be hard to believe; they may be wrong, they may be a bit crazy, but surely they are honest men, no?

Sorry but during the cold fusion debacle of Pons and Fleischmann, Steven Jones attempted to verify the fusion and did find (and admit) a neutron emmision of a few million times less then Pons and Fleischmann. For whatever reason he decided at that time to cross the line into scientific fraud and decided he verified cold fusion. He lost all credibility to me then and he lost all credibility to most of the scientific community also. So to answer your last question, no Jones isn't honest.

ETA - I always wanted to ask him for a cup of tea.

 

[fourtoe]

Shouldn't that be "smoking gun"? AE911T can't even get their cliches right. The depth of understanding appears largely absent, given that authors are unable to recognise that a reaction producing a higher energy density than thermite cannot therefore be a thermite reaction, and that a DSC trace taken in an oxygen-containing ambient is a particularly incompetent way to test for a thermite reaction, which contains its own oxidation source. The fact that their methodology invalidates their results is indicative of incompetence, rather than depth of understanding.

I've heard a Truther explain this corruption of the original wording. They believe that they found unexploded nanothermite in the dust at WTC so they like to say that they didn't just find the smoking gun, they found the gun with the bullet still loaded.

It is both stupid and smug, my favorite two words to describe the TM.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Since the chain of custody argument is often given, does this mean you guys think Jones and Harrit actually spiked the dust? This would be hard to believe; they may be wrong, they may be a bit crazy, but surely they are honest men, no?

While the chain of custody has been raised as an issue in the past, it is not the only critique, nor is it close to being the most damning. Sunstealer in particular has written a well argued critique based firmly on the data Harrit, Jones, and the others provided.

If Jones at the rest can establish the chain of custody, then that's good, but that still fails to address fundamental problems in the findings themselves. That just means we can be more sure that the chips were indeed from the WTC dust. And many of the existent critiques already presumed that.