Neo-Nazis demanding a seat at the conservative table

[TurkeysGhost]

An interesting turn of events in conservative US politics, Neo-Nazis have been showing up to mainstream conservative events and asserting their place as part of the movement.

There has been a series of events in which neo-nazis and other right wing nationalists have been heckling mainstream conservative types. This seems to be an escalation of the conflict between Turning Point's Charlie Kirk, a campus-based mainstream conservative group, and Nick Fuentes, a white-nationalist internet pundit. The nationalists have been attending TPUSA events and demanding that they be heard, or otherwise heckling the events.

This has escaped the Kirk-Fuentes feud now as Donald Trump Jr. was similarly heckled by nationalists at one of his book tour events.

It seems that the extreme right is no longer happy to accept dog-whistles and token efforts and is demanding that their ideas be taken seriously and answered directly. The nationalists have the opinion that MAGA has failed to be sufficiently anti-immigrant, anti-free trade, and generally not as extreme as promised.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/11/donald-trump-jr-walks-out-of-triggered-book-launch-after-heckling-from-supporters?CMP=share_btn_tw
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/charlie-kirk-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-turning-point-usa/

 

[Craig4]

I'm all for it. Force Magascum and Trumptrash to embrace the logical outcome of their "ideas".

 

[Belz...]

The nationalists have the opinion that MAGA has failed to be sufficiently anti-immigrant, anti-free trade, and generally not as extreme as promised.

Yep, even Trump is not enough for them.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Yep, even Trump is not enough for them.

You have to admit, Trump's been doing a pretty fine job of straddling the fence, playing the mainstream conservative while still making fairly bold gestures to the fringe right. His veneer of deniability is pretty thin as it is, but I guess the Nazis want open endorsement at this point.

But talk is cheap, and the Nazis want more. Hope this rift tears the party apart, but I'm not sure what the play is here for the right wingers. Hopefully they are too short-sighted to see that Trump is their best option at the moment and continue to attack their own.

 

[plague311]

Hope this rift tears the party apart, but I'm not sure what the play is here for the right wingers.

The problem for the right is that if they split and try to form 2 factions it's almost guaranteed they'll never have a majority again.

 

[Distracted1]

The problem for the right is that if they split and try to form 2 factions it's almost guaranteed they'll never have a majority again.

That is a problem for either Party.

 

[johnny karate]

This has escaped the Kirk-Fuentes feud now as Donald Trump Jr. was similarly heckled by nationalists at one of his book tour events.

Can we all just take moment to appreciate the delicious irony of Trump Jr. being booed offstage by other conservatives at a promotional event for a book entitled Triggered: How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us?

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Can we all just take moment to appreciate the delicious irony of Trump Jr. being booed offstage by other conservatives at a promotional event for a book entitled Triggered: How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us?

The Trump family is immune to irony. Jr. makes an ass of himself on a daily basis.

 

[Donal]

I like how his side piece, who he also acquired from FOX News, spoke to them like a bunch of children.

Guilfoyle, forced to shout to make herself heard, told students in the crowd: “You’re not making your parents proud by being rude and disruptive.”

Vampires are more capable of self reflection.

 

[Childlike Empress]

This has escaped the Kirk-Fuentes feud now as Donald Trump Jr. was similarly heckled by nationalists at one of his book tour events.

It seems that the extreme right is no longer happy to accept dog-whistles and token efforts and is demanding that their ideas be taken seriously and answered directly. The nationalists have the opinion that MAGA has failed to be sufficiently anti-immigrant, anti-free trade, and generally not as extreme as promised.

The Kirk guy was on stage with Don Jr. at that event. The Neon-Nazis planned to ask him questions that would expose his alleged agenda and make it impossible for Don Jr and Sr to further associate with him. This schism is most of all about them trying to isolate people they think have infiltrated and are subverting their MAGA thing on behalf of a foreign power (guess which).

 

[acbytesla]

The Kirk guy was on stage with Don Jr. at that event. The Neon-Nazis planned to ask him questions that would expose his alleged agenda and make it impossible for Don Jr and Sr to further associate with him. This schism is most of all about them trying to isolate people they think have infiltrated and are subverting their MAGA thing on behalf of a foreign power (guess which).

Huh? That all made sense...Not. Can anyone say "koo koo"?

 

[smartcooky]

I like how his side piece, who he also acquired from FOX News, spoke to them like a bunch of children.



Vampires are more capable of self reflection.

Nommed

Bram Stoker would have been proud to call that observation his own!

 

[ahhell]

The Trump family is immune to irony. Jr. makes an ass of himself on a daily basis.

Sure, but most days he's overshadowed by his father's making an ass out of himself.


I for one do not want neo-nazi's being allowed a seat at any table. I hope American conservatives can keep them at bay and hopefully shake off Trumpism too.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Huh? That all made sense...Not. Can anyone say "koo koo"?

OK Boomer.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Sure, but most days he's overshadowed by his father's making an ass out of himself.


I for one do not want neo-nazi's being allowed a seat at any table. I hope American conservatives can keep them at bay and hopefully shake off Trumpism too.

Then we shouldn't have elected someone who regularly retweets and cites them for fact as president. But we did and as a major influencer of the president they have a seat at the table.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

The Kirk guy was on stage with Don Jr. at that event. The Neon-Nazis planned to ask him questions that would expose his alleged agenda and make it impossible for Don Jr and Sr to further associate with him. This schism is most of all about them trying to isolate people they think have infiltrated and are subverting their MAGA thing on behalf of a foreign power (guess which).

That detail did escape my attention. Perhaps the heckling of Trump Jr. was largely collateral damage in the extreme right's focus on Kirk. I'll be interested to see if this activity grows to include other mainstream conservatives, or if it remains focused on Kirk.

My understanding is that the far-right aren't particularly fond of the Trump children, or at least they don't like Ivanka and Jared, as they are seen as moderating voices in opposition to Trump's most reactionary instincts.

 

[Childlike Empress]

That detail did escape my attention. Perhaps the heckling of Trump Jr. was largely collateral damage in the extreme right's focus on Kirk.

The orders from the Neon-Nazi Führer came loud and clear:

Tomorrow is the final battle in Episode I of the Groyper War. Donald Trump Jr. is going to be at UCLA with Charlie Kirk for an official Turning Point USA event that I believe they are going to have to stream live on their YouTube channel.

We have a specific goal at this event, so for this one, forget everything we’ve done so far.

In LA, we want to drive a wedge between Charlie Kirk and President Trump by making the former look stupid in front of the son of the latter.

Thus, after listening to Groyper General Alpha Nick Fuentes, I must advise that no questions be asked about Israel, because that is an actual issue that Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk agree on.

Instead, we need to focus on our other two issues, namely immigration and sexual degeneracy. But everything must be done with the primary goal of humiliating Kirk, and showing that he does not represent the base, at all. We should also not hesitate to purposefully humiliate Kirk on a personal level.

Of course this is all in the open if you know where to look so if the targets aren't completely without intelligence (in the informational sense), they knew what was coming and apparently fleeing the stage after insulting the audience was the best they were able to come up with. The Führer was pleased.

 

[Mumbles]

Makes sense to me. after all, the the "other" if the base of the modern GOP, so why wouldn't they do this?

 

[acbytesla]

Huh? That all made sense...Not. Can anyone say "koo koo"?

OK Boomer.

Go ahead. That post was koo koo nonsense. It's all a comspiracy against poor Putin. Waah.

 

[CapelDodger]

Can we all just take moment to appreciate the delicious irony of Trump Jr. being booed offstage by other conservatives at a promotional event for a book entitled Triggered: How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us?

I took just such a moment when I read about it. I also indulged in a huge .