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Merged Nelson Mandela Ceremony Sign Language Interpreter a 'Fake'

As the ANC has the majority in Parliament, the ANC is IMO government.

All qualified signers are accredited in SA but as to whether there is an online register, I have not looked.

I doubt whether any ANC official would have looked either as it normally assigns positions and opportunities to cadres regardless of their competency, qualification or criminal record.

Apaprently he says he has a qualification from a British university - one which has no online presence at all. Of course, it can't possibly be a diploma mill.:rolleyes:

Nevermind that's its a pretty bad lie - I doubt any British university, never mind a diploma mill, offers a qualification in South African Sign Language. I further doubt any British university offers a course in SASL beyond the rudimentary or comparative.
 
This is as quick and simple as I can make it!

The ANC is the major political party. It has dominated the political scene since 1994. It has attained overwhelming majorities in the 1994, 1999, 2004 and 2009 elections and will do so again in 2014. In 2009 it obtained 65.9% of the votes. It also controls 8/9 provinces and the majority of municipalities. It governs in alliance with Cosatu, a trade union organisation and the South African Communist Party.This explains in part th frequent references to "marxist" or "communist" from the resident racists but their economic policy since 1994 has been anything but "communist".

The largest opposition party is the Democratic Alliance. (DA) Although it has been carving out a larger slice of the electoral pie with each successive eletcion, it still only obtained 16.66% of the vote in 2009. It does control the Western Cape province (where my and Skwinty's home, Cape Town is located) and a number of municipalities. It suffers from being perceived as a "white party".

By American standards it is left wing; in SA political context it is centre right.

The remainder is taken up by a host of minor political parties. Four others are worthy of mention:

- Inkatha Freedom Party, a Zulu nationalist party with a stronghold in KwaZulu Natal. It gained 10.54% of the vote in 1994, but less than 5% in 2009. Its unlikely they will improve in 2014.

-Congress of the People, an ANC breakaway party. They obtained 7.42% of the vote in 2009. At one time it was possible they could have become the official opposition. but prolonged infighting over leadership has crippled the party. It is possible that they will not return to parliament in 2014.

There are 9 other parties represented nationally. No other party received more than 0.92% of the vote in 2009 and are not worthy of consideration.

There are two new parties which are receiving a lot of attention and may be important players after the next elections:

-Agang, a new arrival which will contest elections in 2014 for the first time. It is headed by Mamphele Ramphele who has a long and distinguished career, including a previous stint as director of the World Bank. Their policies are somewhat muddled and not easily distinguished from that of the DA. I don't think they will do too well.

- Economic Freedom Fighters, another new arrival, headed by former ANC Youth League president Julius Malema. Malema is a opportunistic hothead well-known for anti-white rhetoric and spouting nonsense on topics he knows nothing about and generally being an offensive moron. His base is the disillusioned poor (never mind the allegations of corruption and a ZAR16 million or about 1.6 million US dollars home.) His party is premised on a vague notion of "economic freedom" which includes nationalisation of mines. His party has been described by political commentators as displaying proto-fascist elememnts. They are a genuine wild card in the upcoming elections and may gain a significant number of votes (albeit not enough to dislodge the DA as the official opposition.

And my home!!! :-)

Nice summary.

One could probably add that Cosatu is in a bit of a shambles with there General Secretary , Zwelinzima Vavi, suspended for having an affair with a younger colleague who initially accused him of rape and the threat from one their biggest members National Union of Metalworkers of South Africa ( NUMSA) to split from them.
 
I noticed it in a very short clip while watching it and thought it was very weird. And I am not a signer.
It's how signers demonstrate the tone of voice; facial expression is very important.
 
http://mg.co.za/article/2013-12-15-bogus-interpreter-employed-by-anc-owned-comapny

Head of the ANC religious and traditional affairs desk, Bantubahle Xozwa, told the paper that Thamsanqa Jantjie was employed as an administrator and facilitator in his company, South African Interpreters.

"Thamsanqa is not an interpreter," Xozwa was quoted as saying. "He was disqualified years ago on the basis of his health. He was interpreting at the memorial service in his personal capacity."

So much for the company disappearing. The ANC is a devious lying organisation.
 
This is as quick and simple as I can make it!

The ANC is the major political party. It has dominated the political scene since 1994. It has attained overwhelming majorities in the 1994, 1999, 2004 and 2009 elections and will do so again in 2014. In 2009 it obtained 65.9% of the votes. It also controls 8/9 provinces and the majority of municipalities. It governs in alliance with Cosatu, a trade union organisation and the South African Communist Party.This explains in part th frequent references to "marxist" or "communist" from the resident racists but their economic policy since 1994 has been anything but "communist".

The largest opposition party is the Democratic Alliance. (DA) Although it has been carving out a larger slice of the electoral pie with each successive eletcion, it still only obtained 16.66% of the vote in 2009. It does control the Western Cape province (where my and Skwinty's home, Cape Town is located) and a number of municipalities. It suffers from being perceived as a "white party".

By American standards it is left wing; in SA political context it is centre right.

The remainder is taken up by a host of minor political parties. Four others are worthy of mention:

- Inkatha Freedom Party, a Zulu nationalist party with a stronghold in KwaZulu Natal. It gained 10.54% of the vote in 1994, but less than 5% in 2009. Its unlikely they will improve in 2014.

-Congress of the People, an ANC breakaway party. They obtained 7.42% of the vote in 2009. At one time it was possible they could have become the official opposition. but prolonged infighting over leadership has crippled the party. It is possible that they will not return to parliament in 2014.

There are 9 other parties represented nationally. No other party received more than 0.92% of the vote in 2009 and are not worthy of consideration.

There are two new parties which are receiving a lot of attention and may be important players after the next elections:

-Agang, a new arrival which will contest elections in 2014 for the first time. It is headed by Mamphele Ramphele who has a long and distinguished career, including a previous stint as director of the World Bank. Their policies are somewhat muddled and not easily distinguished from that of the DA. I don't think they will do too well.

- Economic Freedom Fighters, another new arrival, headed by former ANC Youth League president Julius Malema. Malema is a opportunistic hothead well-known for anti-white rhetoric and spouting nonsense on topics he knows nothing about and generally being an offensive moron. His base is the disillusioned poor (never mind the allegations of corruption and a ZAR16 million or about 1.6 million US dollars home.) His party is premised on a vague notion of "economic freedom" which includes nationalisation of mines. His party has been described by political commentators as displaying proto-fascist elememnts. They are a genuine wild card in the upcoming elections and may gain a significant number of votes (albeit not enough to dislodge the DA as the official opposition.

Thanks!
 
This guy has been charged with rape, murder, and kidnapping.

The bogus sign language interpreter at last week's Nelson Mandela memorial service was among a group of people who accosted two men found with a stolen television and burned them to death by setting fire to tires placed around their necks, one of the interpreter's cousins and three of his friends told The Associated Press Monday.

But Thamsanqa Jantjie never went to trial for the 2003 killings when other suspects did in 2006 because authorities determined he was not mentally fit to stand trial, said the four. They insisted on speaking anonymously because of the sensitivity of the fake signing fiasco, which has deeply embarrassed South Africa's government and prompted a high-level investigation into how it happened.

Story.

How was this guy allowed in the building and near world leaders at that.
 
I do hope, as you might expect, that someone gives the sign languager a nice necklace for old times' sake. I would be honored to light it for it.


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I do hope, as you might expect, that someone gives the sign languager a nice necklace for old times' sake. I would be honored to light it


I don't think that what the guy did was appropriate, but the penalty for pretending to be a sign language interpreter shouldn't be death by tire fire.
 
I don't think that what the guy did was appropriate, but the penalty for pretending to be a sign language interpreter shouldn't be death by tire fire.

No - it was due to the point that he had previously been tried for murder - he was part of a small group that necklaced three men.


ETA: note Stacko's post about 5 above this. I saw more details on that and popped in to check if it had been mentioned. It had.....
 
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