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Need Help with Creationism Talk

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I will be giving a talk on Creation Science at my local Atheists, Humanists, and Agnostics group in a couple of months (April 1, actually. I like the irony.). What I plan on doing is taking excerpts from Creationist videos and commenting on the arguments that the Creationists make.

What I need help with is getting the CS video. I used to have several CS resources, but have discarded most of it. I certainly don't want to support CS ministries, but I need the video for the talk.

Does anybody have either 1) a video that I could borrow or 2) a suggestion on where I could get a video? In particular, a video by Ken Ham, Dr. Dino, or Philip Johnson would be great. Mainly, I want something to deal with the common arguments (2nd law of thermodynamics, fossil record, grand canyon, abiogenesis, global flood, etc.).

Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
I don't know about copyright issues but Youtube has heaps of this stuff. Try searching for "Ken Ham - Where Did God Come From" for starters.
 
He can also go to godtube.com

EHLO said:
I don't know about copyright issues but Youtube has heaps of this stuff. Try searching for "Ken Ham - Where Did God Come From" for starters.
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At godtube the Creationists argue against evolution and espouse the six day theory of creation and the talking snake and the atheists try to rebut them.. Many of them succeed admirably.
 
http://pop.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t

This guy has a lot of his stuff

More here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8EsJfklJc0

Here's a search on Ken Hovind (Dr. Dino):

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ken+hovind&search_type=&search=Search

You can search all of them and all of them have been torn apart by others very well by some very smart people with who post their goodies on youtube... the creationists keep trying to sue for copyright violations.

Oh, and don't forget Kirk Cameron and his infamous banana.
 
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Now the excruciatingly painful part: I have to watch it.

Hmm.. The only way I know to get videos off of YouTube/GodTube is with Real player, but I can't embed .flv files into powerpoint. Can anyone help with this?
 
EHLO said:
I don't know about copyright issues but Youtube has heaps of this stuff. Try searching for "Ken Ham - Where Did God Come From" for starters.
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Many of these videos are specifically not copyrighted, of course you'll have to check to make sure when you find one.

LLH
 
Do you have a Netflix subscription? Hovind's seminars are availible and you could, obviously, keep any disk or disks you have as long as you need them. That might be the easiest way of getting decent video into your Powerpoint.
 
m_huber said:
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Now the excruciatingly painful part: I have to watch it.

Hmm.. The only way I know to get videos off of YouTube/GodTube is with Real player, but I can't embed .flv files into powerpoint. Can anyone help with this?
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There are a lot of converter programs that you can probably pick up at a any shareware site... You can convert most videos to usable formats.
 
Cool idea m_huber; however, shouldn't the talk be called on Creation Anti-Science? ;)

Anyway, do you have the Kirk Cameron and friend videos? For example, the banana video?

(sorry, I do not have access to streaming video, so I cannot provide linkage at this time)

eta: articulett already said that, so I second it.
 
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articulett said:
There are a lot of converter programs that you can probably pick up at a any shareware site... You can convert most videos to usable formats.
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Some good ones at nonags.com along with some good youtube capture programs.
 
Check out Livescience top 10 creation stories:

http://www.livescience.com/history/top10_intelligent_designs.html

Geologic podcast Way of Yaweh (52.1) http://geologicpodcast.com/ is an excellent parody on the Kirk Cameron banana clip.

Oh, and check out Ken Miller's chromosome 2 fusion:



I know you'll do great mhuber. Maybe someone cane tape you and post the video for us. It's great of you to volunteer to share the info. Where will this speech be? I think the I think there are some great videos of Eugenie Scott on youtube too, talking about the Dover case... She's excellent.
 
Ok, took me a bit of digging, but I finally found iSquint (isquint.com) to do the trick.

Thanks for the help up to this point. I may have some specific questions to post here as I work on the lecture.
So far, I have 2 main videos that I am working from that I found on answersingenesis.org. Turns out, they have streaming video of numerous conferences and lectures. I picked out Ken Ham's "Genesis: The key to reclaiming the culture" and Dr. Terry Mortenson's "Origin of Species," as they seemed to be representative of both common creationist argument styles and the underlying meaning behind the movement. Mortenson's video includes a long discourse on the deception of transitional forms, so I will be able to work whale evolution into my talk. I'll probably post the notes from that part on either this thread or find an appropriate place on another thread (but not right now). Ham's video deals almost entirely with the question "what if the Bible is wrong?" making it a wonderful example of the psychology of creationists.

I also have some other videos I intend to incorporate into the lecture, but it will be hard since I only have 45 min. to talk. I'm guessing at this point that roughly half of that time will be taken up by creation video. While I find the banana video immensely entertaining, I'm not sure if it will make the final cut. I did find a good short on GodTube that I will definitely be using -- Chatting with Charlie (If you are feeling masochistic, check it out). I will probably take some other short clips of Hovind and others to include.

I have not yet found a good clip of a creationist stating the 2nd law of thermodynamics argument. Does anybody have one off hand?

Articulett, the talk will be given at Louisiana State University at the meeting of the Atheists, Humanists, and Agnostics on April 1, if you're looking to make a quick trip down south. ;) I will try to talk to someone about recording the talk. I have an audio recorder, but not video. If it works out, I will definitely post it. If not, I plan to post the audio with the appropriate video segments intermixed, something like Thunderf00t does. But this is all in the distant future.
 
I'm giving the lecture next week, and I am trying to get everything finalized for my lecture. I need some help with something, though.

On this page, the video "Definition of terms I" defines science as "sensible (observable with the five senses), repeatable, and only in the present." I am trying to generate a list of all of the things that are generally considered to be valid scientifically that that definition excludes. Thanks for any help!
 
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