Necesary Reforms

[icebear]

The following is a sort of a minimal list of reforms which I'd view as needed at this point....



Money System and Financial Reforms

The money and banking system which was set up in 1913, along with the income tax and IRS which was set up to pay interest on debt while using debt as a primary basis for money, has reached the end of its useful lifespan. Glass-Steagal should be implemented immediately, the so-called "Super Priority" of derivative counterparties hould be abolished immediately, and a major effort should be made to devise a rational system of money for the United States. The Federal Reserve, the IRS, and the income tax should be abolished, and the power to coin money itself should be reclaimed by congress. No rational government should ever borrow money into existence.

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[332nd]

What makes you think neither Clinton or Obama would be unable to get secret level clearance?

 

[marplots]

Disagree on war on drugs bit. And that makes me wonder what the difference between "reform" and "just different" is?

 

[icebear]

Disagree on war on drugs bit. And that makes me wonder what the difference between "reform" and "just different" is?

You see the "War on Drugs" as a good thing??

 

[marplots]

You see the "War on Drugs" as a good thing??

No, I understand the criticisms, I'm just not sold on the alternative being the opposite rather than some less radical modification of the existing policies. I'm also not convinced that the consequences will be the ones intended.

Granted, it's a matter of opinion on where altering policies are "reform" and when it turns into something else. But what's described above seems a bit more like "dumping altogether" than "reform."

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

There should be a None-Of-Above choice on all ballots for public office and if that choice ever wins, then the other candidates should be barred for life from holding ANY public office and the parties sponsoring them should be barred for at least ten years from sponsoring candidates for that particular office. The penalty for running dead wood for public offices should be severe.

That is insanely strict, and parties don't run candidates anyway. People say they are a Democrat, and they are.

There should also be some mechanism to prevent utterly unqualified people from holding high offices. Certainly a candidate for president or vice president, or for US Senator or member of the House of Representatives should need to obtain the same basic and simple secret level security clearance which anybody would need to be a guard at the gate of any military base in our land. That isn't asking for much but it would have spared us from the last two democrat presidents.

That seems like an odd qualification.

Another item on such a voters' bill of rights should be something which would eliminate voting fraud for all time.

Our entire voting system is fubar and needs to be replaced and a fraud-proof system would not be that hard to devise; it would involve biometrics and p2p networking and the idea that ANYBODY could do his own vote tally and that all tallies should match. It also should involve the idea that a person could have total assurance that his vote did not disappear or get counted for the other guy. What I'd envision would be keeping my vote on MY computer with a fingerprint reader like you see on all govt computers i.e. a record of my contact info and a biometric reading and a national database to check biometrics for me and everybody else, and a p2p network to allow ANYBODY to do his own tally by calling for votes the same way you'd ask or a copy of "you aint nothing but a hound dog" on Kazaa, and all tallies should produce the same number within statistical limits.

You would be ignoring all the people who don't have fingerprint scanners at home and aren't tech-savvy. This is also all a solution in search of a problem, as there has been no evidence of widespread fraud.

We should consider the possibility that, when an election is within one percentage point, we send both people to congress with half of a vote each.

A proper multi-representative district and/or proportional representation would be better.

There is also a question as to the extent the people should be voting on some issues directly since we now have the technology to allow that, while the founding fathers did not. You could get some of these social issues settled once and for all and out of politics, and you could limit the scope for corruption and bribery by letting the people themselves settle at least some kinds of issues.

Direct democracy led to California not being able to raise taxes to meet its needs.

The size of obungacare indicates to me that it is about power and not about health care. Likewise Mark Steyn notes that the job of director or head of public health has become the biggest govt. job in European countries which have public health care i.e. it would be a step upwards from PM or President or King or Grand Duke or anything else to head of health care. In other words, European health care is ultimate bureaucracy.

You do realise Europe is made of different nations?

2. Elimination of the artificial exclusivity of the medical system. In other words our medical schools could easily produce two or three times the number of doctors they do with no noticeable drop off in quality.

Evidence?

4. Elimination of the outmoded WW-II notion of triage in favor of a system which took some rational account of who pays for the system and who doesn't. The horror stories I keep reading about the middle-class guy with an injured child having to fill out forms for three hours while an endless procession of illegal immigrants just walks in and are seen, would end, as would any possibility of that child waiting three hours for treatment while people were being seen for heroin overdoses or other lifestyle issues.

Why is that more rational that the humane triage system based on medical need?

We need a law and possibly a constitutional amendment requiring a person to be a US citizen for 18 years before they ever vote in a US election. That would not be difficult to justify; I had to be a US citizen for eighteen years before I ever voted in a US election and I don't see any immigrant group which appears better or more deserving of rights than I am.

lolwut?

Education

Notice I didn’t mention public education/indoctrination in that one since to my thinking public schools need to be abolished and not reformed.

Yeah, no.

 

[Kopji]

Sort of a lot to bite off in one piece. Generally, I think our problems are more complex than can be answered in a short post.

1. Money.
I don't see anything changing soon. Unions are struggling and employees other than the fast food industry seem reasonably content. At least, there are not riots like in the early 1900's. What if our money was really worthless but everyone was content anyway?

Congress is a ship of fools and I can't see them being part of a serious solution to anything soon.

2. Political reforms
I'm sort of for an idea that might require everyone to vote in order to get a tax break.
Also, I'm generally for an idea of elections where the two biggest vote getters have a runoff. I would be hopeful that would create a rather bland fight over a middle ground rather than candidates that are essentially extremists.

3. Drugs
I partially agree. Throwing away the key though, can lend itself to a lot of abuse by powers that be. Someone might do almost anything to stay out of prison if sentencing was harsh and mandatory.

If you said that private prisons should be eliminated, I agree 100%. I hate the idea that prisons are a source of political power and income. If taxpayers paid for prisons we would see something done about the drug laws. As it is, people using drugs subsidize government AND criminals.

4. Medical
I think that everyone should be able to enjoy the excellent health coverage that I get for working for a multinational company. Obamacare seems to be taking us in that direction. There is a problem when healthy people pay nothing into the system, but expect care later in life when things aren't as rosy. The basic message is that it is more fair to even out medical payments across our lifetimes. Simple as that really.

Obamacare is certainly imperfect, but a good direction. If Republicans would quit their nonsense and work instead to help improve it, would be better for all. Btw I think it was a stupid mistake to call it Obamacare, Obama should have insisted on calling it Affordable Care Act all along.

5. Immigration
How about tear the walls down and allow free trade and travel in both directions. I'd love to own a piece of Baja California.

6. Public Schools
I don't think all private schools are the answer. Maybe abolishing all private schools would be a closer answer.

 

[icebear]

4. Medical
I think that everyone should be able to enjoy the excellent health coverage that I get for working for a multinational company. Obamacare seems to be taking us in that direction. .

Obamacare is a total disaster, basically just a redistribution scheme. It does not address any of the real problems with medical costs. The reform I suggested above does.

 

[bedlin88]

Obamacare is a total disaster, basically just a redistribution scheme. It does not address any of the real problems with medical costs. The reform I suggested above does.

I love how it's a total disaster when it hasn't even been fully implemented yet and the law truly doesn't go into effect untill Jan. 1st.

I still would have preferred a single payer option. making profit off of peoples health just seems evil to me.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

What makes you think neither Clinton or Obama would be unable to get secret level clearance?

They are Democrats

 

[Alferd_Packer]

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All that work you spent typing in that post and you had to make a big pile of kaka in the middle of it. Such a shame.

Obviously you are incapable of civilized discourse.

Buh bye

 

[icebear]

What makes you think neither Clinton or Obama would be unable to get secret level clearance?

Clinton, the cocaine, the underage girls at the governor's mansion parties, the Juanita Broaddrick charges, the other (numerous) allegations of sexual assault and/or rape, the Mena airport operations for starters.

Obama, drug use, the lack of US citizenship, the associations with shady/unsavory characters, Wright, Dorn, Ayers for starters.

 

[icebear]

I love how it's a total disaster when it hasn't even been fully implemented yet and the law truly doesn't go into effect untill Jan. 1st.

Question... What other kinds of things would you like to try to implement as law on the basis of assuming them to be safe/harmless because they've never yet been tried?

 

[bedlin88]

Question... What other kinds of things would you like to try to implement as law on the basis of assuming them to be safe/harmless because they've never yet been tried?

How about a law that folks who get all of their news/information from sources like Fox, MSNBC, or Rush, not ever be allowed to vote. I, of course, am not serious. Voting is for all no matter how misinformed that voter may be.

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

Exempting doctors from lawsuits while creating a fund to compensate victims of incompetence seems like a communist idea to me.

 

[Peephole]

Thread should be moved to conspiracy section.

 

[uke2se]

Thread should be moved to conspiracy section.

AAH, more like, like the OPs other threads.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

AAH, more like, like the OPs other threads.

Before that, let me get one more post in


Icebear, how old were you when you first read Ayn Rand? Which one was it?

 

[Dcdrac]

and should learn more about Europe before making blanket assertions about it.

 

[pgwenthold]

I get a kick out of the "president must get security clearance" & the claim that it would have prevented the last two democratic presidents. Istr a recent president who was a known cocaine user, had a drunk driving conviction, and was an admitted alcoholic. Highest level security clearance?