Near death experiences

jond said:
A trip through the way back machine will save you folks a lot of typing, as Mike G pointed out early on. OP is not serious, nor likely to answer any questions.
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Yup, I agree, though only by reading the literal one-liner nonsense over the past day or so.
 
Argumemnon said:
Why not? It's an extraordinary claim that violates the laws of physics and has ZERO evidence to support it.

Furthermore, you're making a mistake with your earlier examples. "I ate pizza yesterday" is an instance of something we know to be real. We don't know if the claim is true but we know it's possible and likely. "There's an afterlife" is more akin to "pizzas exist", and we have plenty of evidence for the latter.



Nonsense. We know enough to draw a conclusion.
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Why is it an extraordinary claim? Simulation theory doesn't seem extraordinarily unlikely (there's an argument it's likely), and if we're in a simulation, then a claim could be made that a simulated afterlife exists and NDE's are a simulated form of evidence. Since living in a simulation could be indistinguishable from living in a non-simulation, I don't see the justification for saying the existence of an afterlife is an "extraordinary claim".

Philosophically, I could say the same thing about your conviction that materialism is true. How do you know this? The information you get from your senses is equally compatible with different kinds of reality, some of which the existence of an afterlife isn't an extraordinary claim. It depends on what your prior beliefs are.
 
slipknot0129 said:
We know enough that theres a afterlife.
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No we don't. We do not know anything about an afterlife. Accounts of the afterlife vary enormously, from none at all to a huge panoply of different ideas. They can't all be right, unless every death is unique to the life that precedes it. In that case, then we still cannot say we know there's an afterlife, because for those of us who don't believe in it, there will be none. If you can't support and accept the idea that all ideas about the afterlife are not only equally valid and likely, but that they all will occur as expected, then you can't say you know.
 
Can you please answer my questions regarding your experiences? I really do have an interest in understanding your point of view, and it is disappointing you do not seem interested in helping with this. :(
 
slipknot0129 said:
Atheist have claims they have no proof for.
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No, we addressed this. What you're calling claims by your critics are, in fact, statements of rejection of your affirmative claims for which you refuse to provide evidence. You're trying to reverse the burden of proof.

Did you research "null hypothesis" as I asked you to?
 
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slipknot0129 said:
Because life is perfect.
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Then why is my immune system attacking my body, putting me in a wheelchair, giving me constant pain, and all the delights that accompany uncontrolled Crohn's disease? What is "perfect" about that life?
 
JayUtah said:
No, we addressed this. What you're calling claims by your critics are, in fact, statements of rejection of your affirmative claims for which you refuse to provide evidence. You're trying to reverse the burden of proof.

Did you research "null hypothesis" as I asked you to?
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The claims of atheist aren't proven.
 
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